A LUGER Displayed

drfixer · 06-21-2008, 01:10 PM

Although my pistol is lacking collector value, it is still a source of interest and delight. After much deliberation I decided to display it, so this is what I have. Please try to look beyond it's shortcoming

drbuster · 06-21-2008, 01:24 PM

Dr. Cook, thanks for presenting your 42-41 Mauser luger. I don't know why you are down playing it. According to Jan Still's Third Reich Lugers, page 66, only 7000 were made, making it one of the rarest production military lugers of WW2! The suffix (letter below the serial number on the frame front) should be in the "n" to "r" range. Take care of this puppy, if all the numbers match including the magazine, you may have a $3K luger!

Ron Wood · 06-21-2008, 01:37 PM

That is a tough gun to find, so unless it is a total mismatch I feel free to dispute your claim that it lacks collector value.

drfixer · 06-21-2008, 03:34 PM

It has been refinished. In the process, the proof marks were removed and the buffing blurred some of the corners. Also the serial no on the front of the frame was re-stamped. Because of the re-stamping, I guess the numbers become suspect. All the numbers are the same except for the mags but well, you can see the problem. On the good side, the bore and chamber are great and it shoots real well. The holster and tool are a-ok, real good condition and stored away safely. Thank you for the comments, they are much appreciated.

Dave Cook

drbuster · 06-21-2008, 06:13 PM

This proves that one cannot tell everything from just one photograph. That one view makes this luger look pretty good. It certainly doesn't look refinished. But then with the changes you describe....it is unquestionably diminished in value.

Ron Wood · 06-21-2008, 10:50 PM

Bummer. Oh well, enjoy it anyway, it is still a difficult variation to find. Nice display stand by the way...did you make it?

Went Blakely · 06-22-2008, 03:18 AM

That is a bummer indeed, still a very nice display, agree with Ron on that one.

Steinar · 06-22-2008, 06:04 AM

One of - if not THE best display stand I have seen so far! Very nicely done.
I like pistols to aim downwards when not in use. Perhaps I will take the liberty to copy the idea some day, and just add space for the tool and extra mag as in addition.. is it held up by a plug trough the barrel?

drfixer · 06-22-2008, 11:28 AM

Thank you all for the reply. Yes, I did make the stand. The base is oak and the block at the muzzle is rosewood. The barrel support is a piece of carbon fiber arrow shaft. Two stainless 1/4-20 bolts hold the two pieces together. I thought of making a recess for the spare mag and a place for the tool but got impatient and took the pictures. Those things can be added later. I have a stock of different woods so I could make more stands, for a fee, if anyone is interested. Thank 's again for the comments.

Steinar · 06-22-2008, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by drfixer
I have a stock of different woods so I could make more stands, for a fee, if anyone is interested.

I could be interested, just let me know if you get into selling stands like that

railman44 · 07-09-2008, 11:00 AM

A Plexiglas cover should be easy to make or even have molded if you ever decide to make those stands. Minor woodwork on the base could provide a Ã¢??rimÃ¢?Â for the cover to fit on. That would keep dust off the Luger. If you ever would consider my idea, I would probably be interested in a couple.

Edward Tinker · 07-09-2008, 11:29 AM

Depending on price Dr Cook, I would be interested in 4 or 5 of these?

I like 'em.

ed

railman44 · 07-09-2008, 02:22 PM

Another idea is not using exotic or expensive woods unless a customer demands it. Hard pine can be stained to look like most any wood. Also, have you ever given consideration to using a milled wooden dowl for the mag insert on the stand? It too would be cheaper and maybe even better if it was close to the mag size. Just some random thoughts...

drfixer · 07-10-2008, 04:32 PM

Thanks for the interest in the stand. A plexiglas cover would be a nice addition. Here is a slightly changed version I made for another member of this forum in which I addressed the magazine and tool question. The cost for this version is 55.00 plus shipping. The reason I used a piece of carbon arrow shaft is that carbon does not absorb moisture so no damage to the bore. I also changed the base wood to Poplar to avoid any chance of acid in the wood affecting the metal.
The Japanese use Hanoki wood for the Saya ( scabbard ) of the Katana sword because it has no acid that could harm the bare steel of their precious blade. Both their wood and our Poplar are from the same species and share this trait. So I am told. If the interest is still there, please email me and we can discuss your desires and my abilities to produce.
Thanks again.

Dave

drfixer · 07-13-2008, 08:10 PM

Don't be shy, if anyone is interested in obtaining a display stand please feel free to state your wishes. I really would like to hear what others think is a " right price ". I am a reasonable person and open to suggestion.

Dave Cook

Steinar · 07-16-2008, 04:11 PM

Just want to say, Dave is a great guy to deal with!

For each new step in the prossess of making it, he sent me pictures and asked how I prefered to have it. I think he ended up with a briliant design on his stand. I wish him good luck with his sales!

I'm now in the prossess of making the payment for a stand, hopefully it will work out swiftly. I love quality wooden things ..furniture's, toys, fantastic mag bottoms from a friend/fellow forum member

basicly anything that's not made of plastic just to fill a need.
Good handwork is not appreciated enough in the world today.

Edit: shamefully I came to realize that I forgot to mention Hugh's fantastic grip work above.. well, now it's done

Rod WMG · 07-19-2008, 01:05 AM

Depending on the price, I also would be interested in 4 or 5.

drfixer · 07-19-2008, 08:45 PM

Mr Rod, thank you for the interest. Now to business, which version are you interested in? The first one with the bare base or the second with the two slots and place for the tool. The first is 35.00 and the second is 55.00. Both are plus tax. If you think these prices are not " right "then please, by all means, tell me and and I will consider any price suggestions. Thanks again.

Regards

Dave

Tomathvl · 07-20-2008, 09:39 AM

Dave,
Poplar is one of those woods that doesn't take stain very well that results in the uneven appearance of the base. There's a pre-stain wood conditioner available in Home Depot, Lowe's, local hardware/paint store that will solve this situation. Miwax, as one example, makes this pretreatment. Try it you'll like it. By the way very nice stand.
Tom

Rod WMG · 07-22-2008, 12:01 AM

drfixer, Just got back to the board after a day or two off. I'd be interested in the first version. I will contact you by PM.

Thanks.

06-21-2008, 01:10 PM	#1
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A LUGER Displayed Although my pistol is lacking collector value, it is still a source of interest and delight. After much deliberation I decided to display it, so this is what I have. Please try to look beyond it's shortcoming __________________ DR COOK

06-21-2008, 01:37 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	That is a tough gun to find, so unless it is a total mismatch I feel free to dispute your claim that it lacks collector value. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-21-2008, 03:34 PM	#4
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	It has been refinished. In the process, the proof marks were removed and the buffing blurred some of the corners. Also the serial no on the front of the frame was re-stamped. Because of the re-stamping, I guess the numbers become suspect. All the numbers are the same except for the mags but well, you can see the problem. On the good side, the bore and chamber are great and it shoots real well. The holster and tool are a-ok, real good condition and stored away safely. Thank you for the comments, they are much appreciated. Dave Cook __________________ DR COOK

06-21-2008, 10:50 PM	#6
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Bummer. Oh well, enjoy it anyway, it is still a difficult variation to find. Nice display stand by the way...did you make it? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-22-2008, 03:18 AM	#7
Went Blakely User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts	That is a bummer indeed, still a very nice display, agree with Ron on that one. __________________ Went Blakely

06-21-2008, 01:24 PM	#2
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Dr. Cook, thanks for presenting your 42-41 Mauser luger. I don't know why you are down playing it. According to Jan Still's Third Reich Lugers, page 66, only 7000 were made, making it one of the rarest production military lugers of WW2! The suffix (letter below the serial number on the frame front) should be in the "n" to "r" range. Take care of this puppy, if all the numbers match including the magazine, you may have a $3K luger!

06-21-2008, 06:13 PM	#5
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	This proves that one cannot tell everything from just one photograph. That one view makes this luger look pretty good. It certainly doesn't look refinished. But then with the changes you describe....it is unquestionably diminished in value.

06-22-2008, 06:04 AM	#8
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	One of - if not THE best display stand I have seen so far! Very nicely done. I like pistols to aim downwards when not in use. Perhaps I will take the liberty to copy the idea some day, and just add space for the tool and extra mag as in addition.. is it held up by a plug trough the barrel? __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

06-22-2008, 11:28 AM	#9
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thank you all for the reply. Yes, I did make the stand. The base is oak and the block at the muzzle is rosewood. The barrel support is a piece of carbon fiber arrow shaft. Two stainless 1/4-20 bolts hold the two pieces together. I thought of making a recess for the spare mag and a place for the tool but got impatient and took the pictures. Those things can be added later. I have a stock of different woods so I could make more stands, for a fee, if anyone is interested. Thank 's again for the comments. __________________ DR COOK

07-09-2008, 11:00 AM	#11
railman44 User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	A Plexiglas cover should be easy to make or even have molded if you ever decide to make those stands. Minor woodwork on the base could provide a Ã¢??rimÃ¢?Â for the cover to fit on. That would keep dust off the Luger. If you ever would consider my idea, I would probably be interested in a couple.

07-09-2008, 11:29 AM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	Depending on price Dr Cook, I would be interested in 4 or 5 of these? I like 'em. ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-09-2008, 02:22 PM	#13
railman44 User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Lincoln NE Posts: 26 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Another idea is not using exotic or expensive woods unless a customer demands it. Hard pine can be stained to look like most any wood. Also, have you ever given consideration to using a milled wooden dowl for the mag insert on the stand? It too would be cheaper and maybe even better if it was close to the mag size. Just some random thoughts...

07-10-2008, 04:32 PM	#14
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Stand Thanks for the interest in the stand. A plexiglas cover would be a nice addition. Here is a slightly changed version I made for another member of this forum in which I addressed the magazine and tool question. The cost for this version is 55.00 plus shipping. The reason I used a piece of carbon arrow shaft is that carbon does not absorb moisture so no damage to the bore. I also changed the base wood to Poplar to avoid any chance of acid in the wood affecting the metal. The Japanese use Hanoki wood for the Saya ( scabbard ) of the Katana sword because it has no acid that could harm the bare steel of their precious blade. Both their wood and our Poplar are from the same species and share this trait. So I am told. If the interest is still there, please email me and we can discuss your desires and my abilities to produce. Thanks again. Dave __________________ DR COOK

07-13-2008, 08:10 PM	#15
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Don't be shy, if anyone is interested in obtaining a display stand please feel free to state your wishes. I really would like to hear what others think is a " right price ". I am a reasonable person and open to suggestion. Dave Cook __________________ DR COOK

07-16-2008, 04:11 PM	#16
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Just want to say, Dave is a great guy to deal with! For each new step in the prossess of making it, he sent me pictures and asked how I prefered to have it. I think he ended up with a briliant design on his stand. I wish him good luck with his sales! I'm now in the prossess of making the payment for a stand, hopefully it will work out swiftly. I love quality wooden things ..furniture's, toys, fantastic mag bottoms from a friend/fellow forum member basicly anything that's not made of plastic just to fill a need. Good handwork is not appreciated enough in the world today. Edit: shamefully I came to realize that I forgot to mention Hugh's fantastic grip work above.. well, now it's done __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

07-19-2008, 01:05 AM	#17
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Depending on the price, I also would be interested in 4 or 5.

07-19-2008, 08:45 PM	#18
drfixer User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mr Rod, thank you for the interest. Now to business, which version are you interested in? The first one with the bare base or the second with the two slots and place for the tool. The first is 35.00 and the second is 55.00. Both are plus tax. If you think these prices are not " right "then please, by all means, tell me and and I will consider any price suggestions. Thanks again. Regards Dave __________________ DR COOK

07-20-2008, 09:39 AM	#19
Tomathvl User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Milan, IN Posts: 363 Thanks: 3 Thanked 48 Times in 19 Posts	Dave, Poplar is one of those woods that doesn't take stain very well that results in the uneven appearance of the base. There's a pre-stain wood conditioner available in Home Depot, Lowe's, local hardware/paint store that will solve this situation. Miwax, as one example, makes this pretreatment. Try it you'll like it. By the way very nice stand. Tom

07-22-2008, 12:01 AM	#20
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	drfixer, Just got back to the board after a day or two off. I'd be interested in the first version. I will contact you by PM. Thanks.