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Unread 05-08-2008, 08:15 AM   #1
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Could anyone give me a complete list of sidearms that were accepted issued to German troops during WWII.

I was looking at the feasability of having a collection of one of each. I was thinking in the realm of, say with P-38s, having an AC,a BYF and a CYQ, but not each year varients. Same as for Radom P-35, just one nice one, regardless of varient.

I've got a pretty good start on this, just wanted to know what I'm missing.

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Frazer,

Here's a starting list fom Jan Still's "Axis Pistols + a few... ".


P.08(1910 thru 1945 Erfurt, DWM, Simson Ltd, Mauser, Krieghoff) ,

P.38 ( O , HP, 480 , byf , ac , AC , cyq , cvq , SVW ),

Mauser 1910 , 1910/14 , 1914 , 1914/34 and 1934 , Mauser HSc , Mauser 96 ,

Walther PP , Walther PPK , Sauer 38H , Cz 24 , Cz 27 , Cz 38 ,

1935 Radom , Norwegian 1914 , FN 1922 Dutch , P.08 Banner Dutch ,

FN High Power , FN 1922 Belgian , Armand Gavage , M1935A (French) ,

Unique 16 , Unique 17 , Unique Kriegsmodell , MAB Model D ,

FN 1922 Yogoslavian , FN High Power Lithuanian , Tokarov TT30 , TT33 ,

Beretta 1935 , Beretta 1934 , Astra 400, 600, 300 (7.65 and 9mmK) , 900 ,

Star Model B , Femaru M1937 , Llama Model I , Berman Bayard 1910/21.




When you have all of these. Let me know and I'll see what else I can find.

Good Luck!

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Thanks Ron.
Just a few questions. Did pistols such as the FN 1922 Yugo, FN HP Lithuanian actually have German proofs or were they just pressed into service.

I knew the list was of some size. I know the Beretta's with the 4ut were for German use, so I wouldn't be after an Italian varient. I have a Mauser 1934 with large M, so I would call that military issue, but would a Mauser 1910 or 1914 still be considered a issued firearm in 1938.

Just trying to get my head around it all. I knew the Lugers would be an effort. Hoping the rest would be a bit simpler.

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Ron; is the 'Norwegian 1914 ' the same as the Kongsberg Colt 1911?
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Chip,

I'm not an expert on Waffenamt'ed pistols, but I know that some were acceptance stamped. Some , such as 7.65 mm Astra 300's were Luftwaffe issued without acceptance stamps. I had a Lithuanian HP that was not stamped. Your 1934 with the M is definitely a Navy or Kriegsmarine issue.

Steinar,

Yes, one in the same.

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Ron; Thanks

I have a Melior 7.65 that I know for sure came from a German officer/solidier. But it's without markings + can't imagine these pistols where issued to the army, so it's probably not worth bringing up on the list.
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Chip, You may want to first limit your collecting to only those post 1933 (Nazi era) made pistols that were offically contracted by the German government (WaAed). I know that I've seen a listing somewhere, assigning them offical designations: eg PO8, P38, P35(b), P35(p), 640, etc. TH
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Did pistols such as the FN 1922 Yugo, FN HP Lithuanian actually have German proofs or were they just pressed into service.
Yes...LOTS of them.

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Thanks for that gentlemen. You got what I ment Tom. I don't always express myself the best. Basically I ment a list of WaAed pistols issued.

I have a FN 1922 with WaA markings. The Yugoslav Model was issued with Yugo Crest, in 1923-25, and though they may have been commendeared into service, would used guns have WaA marks applied. I know that there was a batch of 1922 Dutch police guns captured by the Germans before they could be delivered, is it possible for a group of these to be WaA marked.

My Femaru 37 is WaA marked, but these were ordered as new. The CZ 27 is the same, and the Radom was marked after the factory was taken over.
Hopefully the list will surface........Chip
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