Help with 1902 Carbine

Lugers down under · 12-29-2007, 09:42 PM

Can anyone help me please,
I need a sling swivel assembly which fits into the front stock on a model 1902 Luger Carbine.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Murray
Lugers down under

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John Sabato · 12-29-2007, 10:09 PM

Sounds like something our Leatherman Jerry Burney might be able to help out with... if an original is not available, he might know where a repro might be hiding... Good Luck Murray and hope your new year is a great one.

Edward Tinker · 12-29-2007, 10:09 PM

Murray, can't help you

Did I send you an email telling you thanks for the CD-Rom?

ed

Lugers down under · 12-30-2007, 02:15 AM

Thanks guys,

No, Ed, I did not receive a reply as we know it Captain, but, I have been in the USA since I talked to you last and as Jan, the Lady Luger to whom I am married and puts up with gun oil on the pillow and other places did not mention it or I happened to see it on the four computers we own, then I would venture to suggest we did not, but I hope it was of some use for you next book.
I was honoured to meet and discuss "Luger" things with Jerry at the SAR show at Phoenix in December early. What an amazing person.
I will contact Jerry as I have some other favours to ask of him seeing that he "stole" the mag pouch that I had seen not ten table away from where I saw him at the show.
All joking aside, it was really great to meet up again with some of my American Friends.

Kindest wishes
Murray.

lugerholsterrepair · 12-30-2007, 11:18 AM

Murray, Sorry I have no source for such rare parts! I did enjoy meeting you at the show but stole the mag pouch? That is really too much! For three days I begged, pleaded and threw money at the old fart who had it to pry it out of his fingers! I was really worried he wouldn't break it out of the 6000 dollar Artillery rig he had! Or that someone would buy it all and take the pouch too...
Anyway, if there is any favor you need from me let me know!
I will help if I can, Jerry Burney

lugerholsterrepair · 12-30-2007, 01:34 PM

Murray, I think I found your part..There were several types of these..I will send you a photo later today. This one has the block and plunger..Let me know what you need exactly if you can, Jerry

Lugers down under · 12-30-2007, 03:16 PM

Many thanks Jerry,
It was great finally getting to meet you at the SAR show. I am pleased that you got that pouch. It was nice. I was also interested but I had recently found one at a gun show in Christchurch New Zealand which had two nice original magazines and cost me NZ$400 (US$300) and of course I had spent most of my money by then on the carbine.
It is a nice gun, I have not got it yet as we are waiting on the BATF export licence to be able to ship it. The stock was not original and the front swivel assembly was missing but the price was right, so I do hope that you might be able to help me with a swivel.
Regards
Murray

lugerholsterrepair · 12-30-2007, 04:24 PM

Murray, A fellow I know..A very good machinist, Bill Dorflinger made these, seen in the photo's above 30 years ago or so he says. I can get you Bill's Email & phone # so you can deal direct with him if this is what you need. Let me know, Jerry Burney

cirelaw · 01-01-2008, 09:35 AM

Jerry Burney our Rennaisance Man!!

Lugers down under · 01-07-2008, 05:09 PM

Thank you all very much for your help and suggestions.

I think the best thing for me to do is wait until I have the Carbine actually in my grubby gun oil smeared hands so I can determine exactly what I need.
I will then post some photos to give a clearer idea to all those much more knowledgeable than me.

Once again,
Thank you all kindly.

Lugers down under · 03-16-2008, 09:28 PM

Hi Guys,
Well, today my 1902 Carbine turned up and I sold the wife to pay for it.
I am sorry the photo is strange but my camera is playing up a bit

You will note that the forestock swivel assembly is missing.
Below is the internal components for the fore stock and you will see that all that is missing is the swivel and it's threaded shaft.
The plunger block and threaded retaining bush (nut) are there.

Jerry, this is very similar to the photo you posted but I don't need the plunger block and retaining nut, only the swivel and shaft. The stock is a repo stock and it is also missing the swivel assembly but I have no idea what it looks like other than in photos in books.

Can anyone help please.

The gun is great and the service I received, especially from LeRoys Big Valley gun works with the BATF and export was very good indeed.

Lugers Down Under.

lugerholsterrepair · 03-17-2008, 12:07 AM

Murray, I can get you Bill's Email & phone # so you can deal direct with him if this is what you need. Or I can ask him. Let me know how you would like to proceed..

Jerry Burney

Lugers down under · 03-17-2008, 01:06 AM

Jerry,
If you contact Bill for me and set things up, that would be great.
Telephoning is always a problem as the time difference mean That I end up calling people at 3am and I don't speak American that well.
I think it is clear what I now need so I suugest you forward my details on.
i will pay you for what ever it costs.
I have another project for you which I will e-mail you about.
Kind wishes
Murray

lugerholsterrepair · 03-17-2008, 12:03 PM

Murray, OK...Like a bloodhound I am on the scent! I will know shortly if a sling swivel alone can be procured.
I will Email you shortly about the other Carbine Case project.
Jerry

12-29-2007, 09:42 PM	#1
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Help with 1902 Carbine Can anyone help me please, I need a sling swivel assembly which fits into the front stock on a model 1902 Luger Carbine. Any help would be greatly appreciated Murray Lugers down under __________________ __________________ Lugers down under

12-29-2007, 10:09 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,152 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Sounds like something our Leatherman Jerry Burney might be able to help out with... if an original is not available, he might know where a repro might be hiding... Good Luck Murray and hope your new year is a great one. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

12-29-2007, 10:09 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,916 Thanks: 1,992 Thanked 4,507 Times in 2,081 Posts	Murray, can't help you Did I send you an email telling you thanks for the CD-Rom? ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-30-2007, 02:15 AM	#4
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thanks guys, No, Ed, I did not receive a reply as we know it Captain, but, I have been in the USA since I talked to you last and as Jan, the Lady Luger to whom I am married and puts up with gun oil on the pillow and other places did not mention it or I happened to see it on the four computers we own, then I would venture to suggest we did not, but I hope it was of some use for you next book. I was honoured to meet and discuss "Luger" things with Jerry at the SAR show at Phoenix in December early. What an amazing person. I will contact Jerry as I have some other favours to ask of him seeing that he "stole" the mag pouch that I had seen not ten table away from where I saw him at the show. All joking aside, it was really great to meet up again with some of my American Friends. Kindest wishes Murray. __________________ Lugers down under

12-30-2007, 11:18 AM	#5
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Murray, Sorry I have no source for such rare parts! I did enjoy meeting you at the show but stole the mag pouch? That is really too much! For three days I begged, pleaded and threw money at the old fart who had it to pry it out of his fingers! I was really worried he wouldn't break it out of the 6000 dollar Artillery rig he had! Or that someone would buy it all and take the pouch too... Anyway, if there is any favor you need from me let me know! I will help if I can, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-30-2007, 01:34 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Murray, I think I found your part..There were several types of these..I will send you a photo later today. This one has the block and plunger..Let me know what you need exactly if you can, Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

12-30-2007, 03:16 PM	#7
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Many thanks Jerry, It was great finally getting to meet you at the SAR show. I am pleased that you got that pouch. It was nice. I was also interested but I had recently found one at a gun show in Christchurch New Zealand which had two nice original magazines and cost me NZ$400 (US$300) and of course I had spent most of my money by then on the carbine. It is a nice gun, I have not got it yet as we are waiting on the BATF export licence to be able to ship it. The stock was not original and the front swivel assembly was missing but the price was right, so I do hope that you might be able to help me with a swivel. Regards Murray __________________ Lugers down under

12-30-2007, 04:24 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Murray, A fellow I know..A very good machinist, Bill Dorflinger made these, seen in the photo's above 30 years ago or so he says. I can get you Bill's Email & phone # so you can deal direct with him if this is what you need. Let me know, Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-01-2008, 09:35 AM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,133 Times in 2,173 Posts	Jerry Burney our Rennaisance Man!!

01-07-2008, 05:09 PM	#10
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Thank you all very much for your help and suggestions. I think the best thing for me to do is wait until I have the Carbine actually in my grubby gun oil smeared hands so I can determine exactly what I need. I will then post some photos to give a clearer idea to all those much more knowledgeable than me. Once again, Thank you all kindly. __________________ Lugers down under

03-16-2008, 09:28 PM	#11
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Hi Guys, Well, today my 1902 Carbine turned up and I sold the wife to pay for it. I am sorry the photo is strange but my camera is playing up a bit You will note that the forestock swivel assembly is missing. Below is the internal components for the fore stock and you will see that all that is missing is the swivel and it's threaded shaft. The plunger block and threaded retaining bush (nut) are there. Jerry, this is very similar to the photo you posted but I don't need the plunger block and retaining nut, only the swivel and shaft. The stock is a repo stock and it is also missing the swivel assembly but I have no idea what it looks like other than in photos in books. Can anyone help please. The gun is great and the service I received, especially from LeRoys Big Valley gun works with the BATF and export was very good indeed. Lugers Down Under. __________________ Lugers down under

03-17-2008, 12:07 AM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Murray, I can get you Bill's Email & phone # so you can deal direct with him if this is what you need. Or I can ask him. Let me know how you would like to proceed.. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

03-17-2008, 01:06 AM	#13
Lugers down under User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Great Barrier Island, New Zealand Posts: 228 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Jerry, If you contact Bill for me and set things up, that would be great. Telephoning is always a problem as the time difference mean That I end up calling people at 3am and I don't speak American that well. I think it is clear what I now need so I suugest you forward my details on. i will pay you for what ever it costs. I have another project for you which I will e-mail you about. Kind wishes Murray __________________ Lugers down under

03-17-2008, 12:03 PM	#14
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,763 Thanks: 4,866 Thanked 3,105 Times in 1,429 Posts	Murray, OK...Like a bloodhound I am on the scent! I will know shortly if a sling swivel alone can be procured. I will Email you shortly about the other Carbine Case project. Jerry __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."