1916 Holster

Fazer · 01-06-2008, 10:52 PM

I have a 1916 dated P-08 holster that someone has cut a couple of slots into between the belt loops. The slots are about as wide as the belt loop and the about the same spacing. The rear loop seems to be a replacement. Any idea what the slots were for. All I can think is maybe the original loop broke and a makeshift loop was tied through till the new one could be sewn on. Thanks...Chip

Vlim · 01-07-2008, 07:22 AM

Hi Fazer,

Looks like you've got a holster that was modified for the Norwegian web belt hanger after WW2.

The loops were cut off and a leather strap that held the metal web belt hanger was riveted in place with 4 rivets.

Many of those holsters were restored when they came on the market in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The hanger was removed, the holes left or just plugged and new loops were sewn on.

Fazer · 01-08-2008, 09:08 AM

Thought I'd add a couple of pictures. It seems as though it was to add a belt loop, to me anyway.

Vlim · 01-08-2008, 09:22 AM

Hi,

Well, the good news is: No Norwegian conversion. It indeed looks like a makeshift belt loop.

Edward Tinker · 01-08-2008, 10:02 AM

If someone is going to carry the luger sideways? Isn't that odd placement of the cuts?

And thye look like original belt loops, so why would someone do this?

ed

lugerholsterrepair · 01-08-2008, 10:54 AM

First time I have ever seen this type of cut on a holster. Can't explain it myself. Just some idiot with a stupid idea and a pocket knife! Usually I see virtical slits where the belt loops were and they thread a belt thru the slits.
Jerry Burney

Ron Wood · 01-08-2008, 11:25 AM

Looking at the compression marks above the lower slot which might indicate upward pressure, i.e. what you might expect if the holster was suspended at that point, could they have been cut for a shoulder strap of some sort?

lugerholsterrepair · 01-08-2008, 12:56 PM

Ron, Yes..I thought that too but not a very effecient way to do it, one hole above the other..more logical would be one on either side to accomodate a shoulder strap.
There can be no end of theories but the fact of the matter is... what used to be a good collectable holster has two holes in it!

Jerry Burney

01-06-2008, 10:52 PM	#1
Fazer Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perth, West Oz Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	1916 Holster I have a 1916 dated P-08 holster that someone has cut a couple of slots into between the belt loops. The slots are about as wide as the belt loop and the about the same spacing. The rear loop seems to be a replacement. Any idea what the slots were for. All I can think is maybe the original loop broke and a makeshift loop was tied through till the new one could be sewn on. Thanks...Chip

01-08-2008, 10:02 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,915 Thanks: 1,989 Thanked 4,506 Times in 2,080 Posts	If someone is going to carry the luger sideways? Isn't that odd placement of the cuts? And thye look like original belt loops, so why would someone do this? ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-08-2008, 10:54 AM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	First time I have ever seen this type of cut on a holster. Can't explain it myself. Just some idiot with a stupid idea and a pocket knife! Usually I see virtical slits where the belt loops were and they thread a belt thru the slits. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-08-2008, 11:25 AM	#7
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 6,988 Thanks: 1,067 Thanked 5,099 Times in 1,676 Posts	Looking at the compression marks above the lower slot which might indicate upward pressure, i.e. what you might expect if the holster was suspended at that point, could they have been cut for a shoulder strap of some sort? __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

01-08-2008, 12:56 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,761 Thanks: 4,863 Thanked 3,101 Times in 1,427 Posts	Ron, Yes..I thought that too but not a very effecient way to do it, one hole above the other..more logical would be one on either side to accomodate a shoulder strap. There can be no end of theories but the fact of the matter is... what used to be a good collectable holster has two holes in it! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

01-07-2008, 07:22 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,043 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,929 Times in 1,194 Posts	Hi Fazer, Looks like you've got a holster that was modified for the Norwegian web belt hanger after WW2. The loops were cut off and a leather strap that held the metal web belt hanger was riveted in place with 4 rivets. Many of those holsters were restored when they came on the market in the late 1980s and early 1990s. The hanger was removed, the holes left or just plugged and new loops were sewn on.

01-08-2008, 09:08 AM	#3
Fazer Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Perth, West Oz Posts: 93 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Thought I'd add a couple of pictures. It seems as though it was to add a belt loop, to me anyway.

01-08-2008, 09:22 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,043 Thanks: 1,032 Thanked 3,929 Times in 1,194 Posts	Hi, Well, the good news is: No Norwegian conversion. It indeed looks like a makeshift belt loop.