Advice for new owner

Deltoidius · 12-14-2007, 09:49 PM

I just acquired a luger. It is a 1936 Swiss Waffenfabrik Bern with matching parts and in fairly good condition. Any guesses on value? Can I shoot it or is it best as a collectible only?

Edward Tinker · 12-14-2007, 09:54 PM

Andrew welcome to the forum.

If you provide pictures, a USA value could be guessed (you have no location, so we don't know where you live); and without pictures; guess for value or if collectable is totally up in the air.

Did you pay a collectable price or??

Ed

Deltoidius · 12-14-2007, 10:03 PM

I didn't pay for it. It was my uncle's and I didn't know he owned it prior to his death so I have no idea about its origins. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow if you need them.

Pete Ebbink · 12-15-2007, 12:11 AM

Hi Andrew,

Here are some Swiss M1929 Lugers for sale with FGS out of Ohio State. Scroll down towards the bottom of the web page.

You can see the pricing variation based on original condition, matching parts, finish remaining, bore condition, and whether the Luger is the more common military-issue or the more rare commercial variety.

http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/photo_4.html

As Ed mentioned, seeing your gun's photos will help a lot...

Simpsons LTD out of Galesburg, IL also has several M1929's for sale...go to pages 1-2 in their Swiss Luger offerings.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=179_216

Keep in mind, these are dealer/retail prices and asking prices is usually not selling price with some dealers...

Deltoidius · 12-15-2007, 08:49 PM

Thanks for the welcomes. Here are some pictures, let me know if you need better ones of certain parts.

MFC · 12-16-2007, 01:43 AM

Andrew,
The Luger you have pictured is a 1936 S/42 which is a code for Mauser, not Waffenfabrik Bern. A very nice Luger in excellent condition.
Mike C.

Deltoidius · 12-16-2007, 08:31 PM

Thanks, I definitely don't know much about collectible firearms. Prior to this luger, the only guns I own are a M1A1 I use for target shooting and a rugged bolt-action 16-gauge for home defense.

So this is a pre-war issued Wehrmacht P08 in good condition? And it has too much collectible value to shoot around with?

Edward Tinker · 12-17-2007, 01:57 AM

If it is all matching and original, it is not worth it for you to shoot and possibly damage it. Be smarter to buy a shooter and keep this one, or sell this one and buy 2 shooters

Ed

Pete Ebbink · 12-17-2007, 01:27 PM

Andrew,

Simpsons LTD has several pages of Mauser WWII offerings.

You might want to review to get an idea of price ranges...keep in mind they are a retail, dealer shop with their mark-ups..but it will give you the high end of market pricing.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=179_215

Navy · 12-17-2007, 03:48 PM

If you want to shoot it, strongly suggest you buy a replacement toggle train and ejector on e-bay and install them when you wish to shoot. When done, clean the piece and re-install the original components. I do that when shooting my collectables.

Tom A

12-14-2007, 09:49 PM	#1
Deltoidius New User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Advice for new owner I just acquired a luger. It is a 1936 Swiss Waffenfabrik Bern with matching parts and in fairly good condition. Any guesses on value? Can I shoot it or is it best as a collectible only?

12-14-2007, 09:54 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,029 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	Andrew welcome to the forum. If you provide pictures, a USA value could be guessed (you have no location, so we don't know where you live); and without pictures; guess for value or if collectable is totally up in the air. Did you pay a collectable price or?? Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-16-2007, 01:43 AM	#6
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Andrew, The Luger you have pictured is a 1936 S/42 which is a code for Mauser, not Waffenfabrik Bern. A very nice Luger in excellent condition. Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

12-17-2007, 01:57 AM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,929 Thanks: 2,029 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	If it is all matching and original, it is not worth it for you to shoot and possibly damage it. Be smarter to buy a shooter and keep this one, or sell this one and buy 2 shooters Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-14-2007, 10:03 PM	#3
Deltoidius New User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I didn't pay for it. It was my uncle's and I didn't know he owned it prior to his death so I have no idea about its origins. I'll get some pictures up tomorrow if you need them.

12-15-2007, 12:11 AM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hi Andrew, Here are some Swiss M1929 Lugers for sale with FGS out of Ohio State. Scroll down towards the bottom of the web page. You can see the pricing variation based on original condition, matching parts, finish remaining, bore condition, and whether the Luger is the more common military-issue or the more rare commercial variety. http://www.fgsinc.8m.com/photo_4.html As Ed mentioned, seeing your gun's photos will help a lot... Simpsons LTD out of Galesburg, IL also has several M1929's for sale...go to pages 1-2 in their Swiss Luger offerings. http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=179_216 Keep in mind, these are dealer/retail prices and asking prices is usually not selling price with some dealers...

12-15-2007, 08:49 PM	#5
Deltoidius New User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the welcomes. Here are some pictures, let me know if you need better ones of certain parts.

12-16-2007, 08:31 PM	#7
Deltoidius New User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks, I definitely don't know much about collectible firearms. Prior to this luger, the only guns I own are a M1A1 I use for target shooting and a rugged bolt-action 16-gauge for home defense. So this is a pre-war issued Wehrmacht P08 in good condition? And it has too much collectible value to shoot around with?

12-17-2007, 01:27 PM	#9
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Andrew, Simpsons LTD has several pages of Mauser WWII offerings. You might want to review to get an idea of price ranges...keep in mind they are a retail, dealer shop with their mark-ups..but it will give you the high end of market pricing. http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?cPath=179_215

12-17-2007, 03:48 PM	#10
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	If you want to shoot it, strongly suggest you buy a replacement toggle train and ejector on e-bay and install them when you wish to shoot. When done, clean the piece and re-install the original components. I do that when shooting my collectables. Tom A