Help with HSc bite

davidkachel · 10-25-2007, 03:19 PM

My shiny new HSc bites. Does anyone have an easy solution to this problem?

John Sabato · 10-25-2007, 03:48 PM

Johnson & Johnson Band Aids...

No really, you need to check to see if you are gripping the gun properly... If an HSc turns out to be not your gun because of the shape of your hand, and custom grips can't fix it for you, then trade it for a Walther or other fine pocket gun...

davidkachel · 10-25-2007, 04:10 PM

I bought the HSc as a possible alternative to the Walther because if my grip is not just right on the Walther I get bloody railroad tracks on the web of my hand.
The HSc has a more traditional hammer bite and no alteration of my grip seems to solve the problem.
I've solved this with other guns by bobbing the hammer, but I'd rather not do that to this previously pristine and unfired HSc if I can avoid it.
The bite isn't as bad as with some other guns I've had, but is nonetheless distracting.

John Sabato · 10-25-2007, 04:13 PM

Buy a replacement hammer and 'bob' away... just keep the old one in case you decide to trade it later...

davidkachel · 10-25-2007, 07:13 PM

Tac,

With the HSc, it's the hammer that bites. The slide with the Walther; at least in my case.
I can solve the problem with the Walther by just changing my grip, though in a difficult situation that is not likely to be foremost in my mind.
The HSc is what this thread is about and that has a definite hammer bite.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-25-2007, 07:24 PM

David, I purchased a pair of golf gloves and use them when I shoot. Keeps my hands clean and protects them. I don't know if it would solve your HSC problem but it might. I owned one HSC and the kick was so horrible I sold it and have never gotten another.
They are thin and comfortable. I actually don't like to shoot without them.
Jerry Burney

davidkachel · 10-25-2007, 07:33 PM

Jerry,

That was my experience too (the recoil that is).
The blowback design exaggerates recoil. I just happened to also test a 9mm pistol today and it kicked much LESS than the HSc.
Though this suprised me, I don't really mind the recoil. But the hammer bite I do mind.
As I was thinking of substituting this as a carry gun for my Walther, the gloves are not a practical option.
And if I should need it for punching holes in something more substantial than paper, I needless to say, cannot be distracted by the anticipation of the hammer bite.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-25-2007, 11:17 PM

David..you'd be all set if you were attacked while golfing! The HSC reminds me of the Makarov. That's another small auto that hurts to shoot...Hard to get any practice in with a pistol you don't like because it hurts!

I always thought the 1903-08 Colt hammerless Pocket Auto was ideal in .380. Very slim, accurate, never jams easy to clean, Few moving parts.
I have a half dozen of them and they would make a great carry pistol.
Jerry Burney

davidkachel · 10-26-2007, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lugerholsterrepair I always thought the 1903-08 Colt hammerless Pocket Auto was ideal in .380. Very slim, accurate, never jams easy to clean, Few moving parts.
I have a half dozen of them and they would make a great carry pistol.
Jerry Burney [/B]

Well, I don't have six of them, but I do have two. One blue with ivory grips and one nickel with pearl grips. I carry them when dressed up but not for daily.

davidkachel · 10-26-2007, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tacfoley
Tell me that you are kidding.

tac

Nope. Mind you, I don't carry them both at once!

pipeman45 · 10-26-2007, 09:06 PM

Ok guys. As a confirmed early Colt nut. I must have pictures!!
BTW I only have one 1903, in 32cal and one 1908 vest pocket, and two 1911's. along with a couple of their revolvers from around 1920's. But hope more will find their way to my door soon.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-27-2007, 12:46 AM

David, If I remember right Colt made a half million .380's and a million and a half .32's. .380 Cal. pistols are not rare but scarce.
Fine little pistols. I don't think there is a better example made today. Against my better judgement, my Wife Ellie carries one for self defense. While I trust the design I trust a revolver more...Jerry Burney

davidkachel · 10-27-2007, 01:23 PM

A lady with a 4" Model 29 she knows how to use. Now there's something that commands respect!

davidkachel · 10-27-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by pipeman45
Ok guys. As a confirmed early Colt nut. I must have pictures!!

Damn! Should have kept my mouth shut.
That safe is the one hidden behind... well, never mind. But it is a pain to get to, the idea being that a would-be thief would lose interest in "excavating" and spend his time instead on the decoy safe that is out in the open.
The decoy safe has real guns in it, but inexpensive and replaceable ones.

davidkachel · 10-27-2007, 02:17 PM

Here's the nickel one as I got it. The ivory grips in the picture were swapped with the pearl grips that came on the blued one.

lugerholsterrepair · 10-27-2007, 09:35 PM

David, A thing of beauty! Jerry Burney

davidkachel · 10-28-2007, 12:56 AM

Thanks Jerry,

You should see her with her pearl bloomers!
The guy who had them originally thought they were after-market because they didn't have Colt medallions. Luckily for me, they were the early ones that didn't come with medallions so the grips alone are worth $6-800!

There are some guns that just have classic beauty and a lot of them seem to be Colts.

Mauser720 · 10-28-2007, 07:49 AM

Well, here is what a portion of the NRA firearms assembly guide for pistols and revolvers has to say about the Mauser HSc Pocket Pistol: "The design has one drawback for a person with a large hand. If the gun is gripped and fired hurriedly , there is a good chance that the hammer will catch a fold of skin between the shooter's thumb and forefinger as it forces back to the full **** position. Aside from this, the gun reflects the design skill that made the Mauser name famous."

Mauser720 - Ron

davidkachel · 10-28-2007, 12:18 PM

Masuer720,

I have small but somewhat meaty hands and there is no way I can grip this gun properly without putting a hunk of skin on the chopping block. I'll either have to find and bob a substitute hammer or sell the gun.

Mauser720 · 10-28-2007, 02:45 PM

Well, at least you know that it is not anything that you are doing "wrong." It is just a poor grip design.

Mauser720 - Ron

10-25-2007, 03:19 PM	#1
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Help with HSc bite My shiny new HSc bites. Does anyone have an easy solution to this problem? __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-25-2007, 03:48 PM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Johnson & Johnson Band Aids... No really, you need to check to see if you are gripping the gun properly... If an HSc turns out to be not your gun because of the shape of your hand, and custom grips can't fix it for you, then trade it for a Walther or other fine pocket gun... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-25-2007, 04:10 PM	#3
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I bought the HSc as a possible alternative to the Walther because if my grip is not just right on the Walther I get bloody railroad tracks on the web of my hand. The HSc has a more traditional hammer bite and no alteration of my grip seems to solve the problem. I've solved this with other guns by bobbing the hammer, but I'd rather not do that to this previously pristine and unfired HSc if I can avoid it. The bite isn't as bad as with some other guns I've had, but is nonetheless distracting. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-25-2007, 04:13 PM	#4
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Buy a replacement hammer and 'bob' away... just keep the old one in case you decide to trade it later... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

10-25-2007, 07:13 PM	#5
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Tac, With the HSc, it's the hammer that bites. The slide with the Walther; at least in my case. I can solve the problem with the Walther by just changing my grip, though in a difficult situation that is not likely to be foremost in my mind. The HSc is what this thread is about and that has a definite hammer bite. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-25-2007, 07:24 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	David, I purchased a pair of golf gloves and use them when I shoot. Keeps my hands clean and protects them. I don't know if it would solve your HSC problem but it might. I owned one HSC and the kick was so horrible I sold it and have never gotten another. They are thin and comfortable. I actually don't like to shoot without them. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-25-2007, 07:33 PM	#7
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Jerry, That was my experience too (the recoil that is). The blowback design exaggerates recoil. I just happened to also test a 9mm pistol today and it kicked much LESS than the HSc. Though this suprised me, I don't really mind the recoil. But the hammer bite I do mind. As I was thinking of substituting this as a carry gun for my Walther, the gloves are not a practical option. And if I should need it for punching holes in something more substantial than paper, I needless to say, cannot be distracted by the anticipation of the hammer bite. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-25-2007, 11:17 PM	#8
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	David..you'd be all set if you were attacked while golfing! The HSC reminds me of the Makarov. That's another small auto that hurts to shoot...Hard to get any practice in with a pistol you don't like because it hurts! I always thought the 1903-08 Colt hammerless Pocket Auto was ideal in .380. Very slim, accurate, never jams easy to clean, Few moving parts. I have a half dozen of them and they would make a great carry pistol. Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-26-2007, 09:06 PM	#11
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Ok guys. As a confirmed early Colt nut. I must have pictures!! BTW I only have one 1903, in 32cal and one 1908 vest pocket, and two 1911's. along with a couple of their revolvers from around 1920's. But hope more will find their way to my door soon. __________________ Dave

10-27-2007, 12:46 AM	#12
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	David, If I remember right Colt made a half million .380's and a million and a half .32's. .380 Cal. pistols are not rare but scarce. Fine little pistols. I don't think there is a better example made today. Against my better judgement, my Wife Ellie carries one for self defense. While I trust the design I trust a revolver more...Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-27-2007, 01:23 PM	#13
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	A lady with a 4" Model 29 she knows how to use. Now there's something that commands respect! __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-27-2007, 02:17 PM	#15
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Here's the nickel one as I got it. The ivory grips in the picture were swapped with the pearl grips that came on the blued one. Attached Thumbnails __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-27-2007, 09:35 PM	#16
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	David, A thing of beauty! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

10-28-2007, 12:56 AM	#17
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Thanks Jerry, You should see her with her pearl bloomers! The guy who had them originally thought they were after-market because they didn't have Colt medallions. Luckily for me, they were the early ones that didn't come with medallions so the grips alone are worth $6-800! There are some guns that just have classic beauty and a lot of them seem to be Colts. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-28-2007, 07:49 AM	#18
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Well, here is what a portion of the NRA firearms assembly guide for pistols and revolvers has to say about the Mauser HSc Pocket Pistol: "The design has one drawback for a person with a large hand. If the gun is gripped and fired hurriedly , there is a good chance that the hammer will catch a fold of skin between the shooter's thumb and forefinger as it forces back to the full **** position. Aside from this, the gun reflects the design skill that made the Mauser name famous." Mauser720 - Ron __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."

10-28-2007, 12:18 PM	#19
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Masuer720, I have small but somewhat meaty hands and there is no way I can grip this gun properly without putting a hunk of skin on the chopping block. I'll either have to find and bob a substitute hammer or sell the gun. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

10-28-2007, 02:45 PM	#20
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Well, at least you know that it is not anything that you are doing "wrong." It is just a poor grip design. Mauser720 - Ron __________________ Mauser720 - Ron "Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it."