VOLPO rig

MJ · 08-14-2007, 10:32 PM

SOG on the back page of SGN. VOLPO P08 with two mags and holster. One magazine is numbered to the pistol. I have just learned the holster is for the P-38.

$215 + $10 shipping

Ahaaaaaaaa.

MJ · 08-14-2007, 11:26 PM

Dwight Gruber · 08-15-2007, 02:57 AM

KILLER deal, congatulations!

Can you show us closeup pictures of all the markings?

--Dwight

Vlim · 08-15-2007, 03:46 AM

Difficult to say from the photo.

The exposed magazine is not a post-war version, but pre-1945. The grips are VoPo grips.

Other giveaways would be a 2/1001 marked magazine numbered to the gun, possibly a barrel with rough muzzle crown and a crown/N proof, X-ed out numbers on small parts (not always) and some other small details.

Edward Tinker · 08-15-2007, 07:18 AM

MJ, like Vlim said, give us more info. Either closer pictures or actual proofs, serial numbers, etc.

The grips are typical east german, however, I use that less and less as a give'away", as they are just grips.... Some folks like them for shooting, etc and just because some cat has babys in the oven, doesn't mean you call them bisquets..

Please post photos here and not on photo bucket...

08-15-2007, 03:57 PM

SOG as in Southern Ohio Gun? Which Shotgun News issue?

MJ · 08-16-2007, 09:45 AM

It said East German Police Lugers.

Earlier that summer they offered East German Police P-38's @ $199

Lugerdoc · 08-16-2007, 10:01 AM

Gerben et al, Many of the DDR reworked PO8s that came into the US has 2 matching mags. Some of these were WW2 FXOs with renumbered bottoms. It's unfortunate that many parts on these had the serials xxxed out, or worse yet, a matching number etched in. One nice feature of the DDR reworks, was that if the original barrel showed too much wear, they would install a new one, usually marked with a C/N and sometime the date of change (eg: 753 for Aug.1953).Admittedly these were not reworked for sale to collectors, rather for distribution to Communist insergent groups through out the world with "plausable denighability" by the Russians. They have shown up in the middle east (Lebanon), Chile, Cuba, etc. TH

ToggleTop · 08-16-2007, 04:38 PM

Is that a "K" on the chamber? Did you say it has matching numbers? Looks like a good deal to me!!

MJ · 08-17-2007, 10:57 AM

K? Yes a K.

The frame has unit markigs on the front strap so the cannon is from another pistole.
Cheers
MJ

Vlim · 08-17-2007, 12:59 PM

So far, everything screams 'VoPo', so I'd call it one

The holster type was in use for the P08 and the P38 during the DDR years.

Dwight Gruber · 08-17-2007, 01:05 PM

What are the unit marks???

--Dwight

RBorecky · 08-17-2007, 05:22 PM

Is this in the Shot Gun News at present or a older ad?? Rick B

MJ · 08-18-2007, 02:02 PM

08-18-2007, 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dwight Gruber
Is this in the Shot Gun News at present or a older ad??

Rick B

It's from long ago, back in 1989 he said. Peaked my interest too, I thought it was something new.

MJ · 08-19-2007, 10:42 AM

For a time in the early to mid 80's SOG had some sweet deals on E. German P38's and P08's as well as K98's and G43's. Even had HSC's in 380 ans .32 apc for $100 with two mags and holster. $150 unfired .45's and the like.

Cheers

And a thanks to Mr. Heller for all his help back then. I was sorry to see him move away from the coast.

RBorecky · 08-19-2007, 09:09 PM

Didn't see anything clear saying it was a old ad. Rick

08-20-2007, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RBorecky
Didn't see anything clear saying it was a old ad. Rick

He didn't say that in the post, that's why I started foaming at the mouth for more info and where to buy one or maybe 10. I PM'd him and he responded with this...

Quote:

I got from SOG for $212 in 1989. That's Southern Ohio Guns. I still have the SGN ad some place, I'm looking for it now.

saxman · 09-13-2007, 10:26 PM

BTW, it's 'VOPO'.

Edward Tinker · 09-13-2007, 10:32 PM

BTW, this is the EXACT reason that posting pictures on image bucket and the like is frowned upon....

I have No friggin idea what the h$%^l these pictures used to look like.

Quit posting them using these "free" sites, they don't allow you to save long or you decide to delete.

Well hell.... just shoot me now instead of in 3 weeks.

08-14-2007, 10:32 PM	#1
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	VOLPO rig SOG on the back page of SGN. VOLPO P08 with two mags and holster. One magazine is numbered to the pistol. I have just learned the holster is for the P-38. $215 + $10 shipping Ahaaaaaaaa.

08-14-2007, 11:26 PM	#2
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is this a VOLPO?

08-15-2007, 07:18 AM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	MJ, like Vlim said, give us more info. Either closer pictures or actual proofs, serial numbers, etc. The grips are typical east german, however, I use that less and less as a give'away", as they are just grips.... Some folks like them for shooting, etc and just because some cat has babys in the oven, doesn't mean you call them bisquets.. Please post photos here and not on photo bucket... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-16-2007, 09:45 AM	#7
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sept. 1988 It said East German Police Lugers. Earlier that summer they offered East German Police P-38's @ $199

08-16-2007, 10:01 AM	#8
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Gerben et al, Many of the DDR reworked PO8s that came into the US has 2 matching mags. Some of these were WW2 FXOs with renumbered bottoms. It's unfortunate that many parts on these had the serials xxxed out, or worse yet, a matching number etched in. One nice feature of the DDR reworks, was that if the original barrel showed too much wear, they would install a new one, usually marked with a C/N and sometime the date of change (eg: 753 for Aug.1953).Admittedly these were not reworked for sale to collectors, rather for distribution to Communist insergent groups through out the world with "plausable denighability" by the Russians. They have shown up in the middle east (Lebanon), Chile, Cuba, etc. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

08-15-2007, 02:57 AM	#3
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	KILLER deal, congatulations! Can you show us closeup pictures of all the markings? --Dwight

08-15-2007, 03:46 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Difficult to say from the photo. The exposed magazine is not a post-war version, but pre-1945. The grips are VoPo grips. Other giveaways would be a 2/1001 marked magazine numbered to the gun, possibly a barrel with rough muzzle crown and a crown/N proof, X-ed out numbers on small parts (not always) and some other small details.

08-15-2007, 03:57 PM	#6
Brad Guest Posts: n/a	SOG as in Southern Ohio Gun? Which Shotgun News issue?

08-16-2007, 04:38 PM	#9
ToggleTop User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: TN Posts: 297 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is that a "K" on the chamber? Did you say it has matching numbers? Looks like a good deal to me!! __________________ *********************** ToggleTop************* JustHappenToLoveLugers *************************

08-17-2007, 10:57 AM	#10
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	K? Yes a K. The frame has unit markigs on the front strap so the cannon is from another pistole. Cheers MJ

08-17-2007, 12:59 PM	#11
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	So far, everything screams 'VoPo', so I'd call it one The holster type was in use for the P08 and the P38 during the DDR years.

08-17-2007, 01:05 PM	#12
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	What are the unit marks??? --Dwight

08-17-2007, 05:22 PM	#13
RBorecky User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Is this in the Shot Gun News at present or a older ad?? Rick B

08-18-2007, 02:02 PM	#14
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Posted bovve 1988 but it may have been two years either way.

08-19-2007, 10:42 AM	#16
MJ User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I thought I made it clear this was a blast from the past. For a time in the early to mid 80's SOG had some sweet deals on E. German P38's and P08's as well as K98's and G43's. Even had HSC's in 380 ans .32 apc for $100 with two mags and holster. $150 unfired .45's and the like. Cheers And a thanks to Mr. Heller for all his help back then. I was sorry to see him move away from the coast.

08-19-2007, 09:09 PM	#17
RBorecky User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Cleveland,Ohio Posts: 115 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Didn't see anything clear saying it was a old ad. Rick

09-13-2007, 10:26 PM	#19
saxman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 301 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	BTW, it's 'VOPO'. __________________ You can lead 'em to the water, but you can't make 'em drink.

09-13-2007, 10:32 PM	#20
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	BTW, this is the EXACT reason that posting pictures on image bucket and the like is frowned upon.... I have No friggin idea what the h$%^l these pictures used to look like. Quit posting them using these "free" sites, they don't allow you to save long or you decide to delete. Well hell.... just shoot me now instead of in 3 weeks.