Please help identify and estimate value.(DWM)

Jamka · 04-16-2007, 04:18 PM

Ben,

I could not touch a PC for one week (family holidays) and upon returning I see some mails from collectors that pointed me to your Pistol # 1039v.
It has not been reported before so it must have been laying in a drawer for a long time.
You have a so called 'Oberndorf 1934' commercial. It was assembled by Mauser in the early thirties, using the parts that came from Berlin in May 1930; just as Bob has been stating above.

This type of Luger can be recognized by the following properties:
1. A big Crown/crown/U commercial proof (Oberndorf Proof House); struck vertically next to the SN on the left receiver (I never saw the Proofmark struck through the SN before, I would like to have some detailed pictures of that spot)
2. Also a big Cc/U proofstamp under the barrel above the serial number above 'v'.
3. A smaller Cc/U on the left side of the breechblock.
4. The DWM Logo on the toggle, no marking on the chamber.
5. The barrel is 4" and has the 9mm caliber.
6. The main serial numbers are struck with rather big 'serif' characters.

Lowest SN found: 630v - Highest SN found: 1679v
Reported: 38 pistols, of which 5 have a sear safety.
(in this range also some Stoeger- and Swiss contracts are found).

So far so good. Your Luger has only one part that does not match this well established picture: the caliber is 7.65mm... On the picture above the barrel looks quite original to me, also the wittness mark seems to be the first one applied.

But: The German Police did not use the 7.65mm cartridge. I have only seen one and only one other Luger that has a sear safety and an original 7.65mm barrel, that was a Swedish commercial; issued in 1940 of 1941.

So you have a mysterious Oberndorf 1934 there. Please check the barrel again; it puzzles me...

04-16-2007, 04:18 PM	#14
Jamka RIP Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Antwerp Belgium Posts: 51 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	Ben, I could not touch a PC for one week (family holidays) and upon returning I see some mails from collectors that pointed me to your Pistol # 1039v. It has not been reported before so it must have been laying in a drawer for a long time. You have a so called 'Oberndorf 1934' commercial. It was assembled by Mauser in the early thirties, using the parts that came from Berlin in May 1930; just as Bob has been stating above. This type of Luger can be recognized by the following properties: 1. A big Crown/crown/U commercial proof (Oberndorf Proof House); struck vertically next to the SN on the left receiver (I never saw the Proofmark struck through the SN before, I would like to have some detailed pictures of that spot) 2. Also a big Cc/U proofstamp under the barrel above the serial number above 'v'. 3. A smaller Cc/U on the left side of the breechblock. 4. The DWM Logo on the toggle, no marking on the chamber. 5. The barrel is 4" and has the 9mm caliber. 6. The main serial numbers are struck with rather big 'serif' characters. Lowest SN found: 630v - Highest SN found: 1679v Reported: 38 pistols, of which 5 have a sear safety. (in this range also some Stoeger- and Swiss contracts are found). So far so good. Your Luger has only one part that does not match this well established picture: the caliber is 7.65mm... On the picture above the barrel looks quite original to me, also the wittness mark seems to be the first one applied. But: The German Police did not use the 7.65mm cartridge. I have only seen one and only one other Luger that has a sear safety and an original 7.65mm barrel, that was a Swedish commercial; issued in 1940 of 1941. So you have a mysterious Oberndorf 1934 there. Please check the barrel again; it puzzles me... __________________ Joop