Got my 1910 DWM, Finally

Mike B · 05-14-2005, 11:12 AM

I would like to share my success in acquiring a very fine1910 DWM military Luger. I was able to purchase it from the gentleman who actually captured it during the second world war. He is a commercial fisherman in his middle 80's. I had been badgering him about it for years and he finally relented. Here are a few pictures. Oh by the way, he said he has a 22 conversions in a pretty little box, but canÃ¢??t find it. Can that true, or is he thinking of some other pistol some other time in his life? Thanks for looking, Mike B.

Luke · 05-14-2005, 11:46 AM

Congratulations, Mike. Beautiful Luger. Does the magazine match?

Luke

Edward Tinker · 05-14-2005, 11:51 AM

Very sweet!

congrats!!

Yes, they made 22 conversions for lugers, and a few other small bore calibers. Was offered one from a friend a year or two ago, and did not have the money

Ed

Lugerdoc · 05-14-2005, 11:52 AM

Mike, You were correct. This one is a real jewel. Grip strap marking indicate that it was the first one listed in inventory of this Reserve Dragoon Regiment. TH

DougT · 05-14-2005, 12:03 PM

Mike,

What a beautiful find! Thanks for posting the photos and the story--it must be really something to get the gun from the man who captured it. Very happy for you.

DougT

Jan C Still · 05-14-2005, 12:18 PM

Mike
Your 1910 DWM is in beautiful condition. The unit stamp is not exactly according to regulations. It should have a number before the R.D. to indicate the number of the reserve dragoon regiment. There were 8 reserve Dragoon regiments numbered 1-8. However, the stamp most likley signifies the 1st Reserve Dragoon Regiment. Please supply the serial number of your Luger for my data base.
Thanks
Jan
Note: the 1st Reserve Dragoon Regiment battled as part of the 108 Infantry Division on both the Eastern and Western Fronts during World War I.

Balder · 05-14-2005, 12:51 PM

Mike,

Congrats on your 1910 DWM - it sure is a beauty! I recently acquired a 1911 DWM that leaves a lot to be desired, finishwise. Does yours have a hold-open?

Regards,

Balder

Jan C Still · 05-14-2005, 03:01 PM

Mike
Link to information on the W mark on your trigger guard.
Jan
COEÃ¢??S Ã¢??MYSTERIOUS "W"OR "M" MARKINGÃ¢?Â continued. Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3163

Ron Wood · 05-14-2005, 03:52 PM

Balder,
Look at the second picture. You can see where the hold-open has been added and the proof mark.

Mike,
Beautiful weapon! Coincidentally, some years ago I also bought a regimentally marked DWM from a friend whose father acquired it in WWII. It is a 1912 in about the same condition as yours and he also had a .22 cal. conversion unit in the large wood box acquired at the same time (I got it too).

Funny how these things turn up. My friend's father was an infantry Major at Bastogne and later went on to become a Brigadier General in the Finance Corps!

Mike B · 05-14-2005, 06:07 PM

Thanks for all the kind words and double thanks for all the great information.
To answer a few questions: The magazine is not marked. Yes, it does have a hold open latch. It was added by the arsenal after it was built as evidenced by the small proof mark on the right side of the Luger. Oh, and I forgot to mention it is all matching. Thanks again, Mike

MFC · 02-27-2007, 11:31 PM

Hi all,
I've seen and held this beautiful Luger. I hope Mike didn't get to mad at my drool all over the gun.

Can anyone shed some light on the grip stamps. I think a lot more is known now than when this thread was started.
Thanks,
Mike C.

Steinar · 02-28-2007, 03:00 AM

Amazing.. how a pistol that old can be in such great shape! Must be stored in dry conditions and hardly fired/handled.. my guess is that he never brought this Luger on his fishing boat

Congratulations with such a great find!

MikeP · 02-28-2007, 07:28 PM

Perseverance pays.

Nice one.

Ron Smith · 02-28-2007, 10:27 PM

Mike,

A beautiful piece in outstanding condition with a nice unit mark. Congratulations!

Ron

Steinar · 03-01-2007, 03:41 AM

hurry.. ask him what kind of oil he had been using on it!

(my little test will start next week)

Dwight Gruber · 03-01-2007, 12:15 PM

Noll lists an alternate interpretation of the grip strap marking R.D. as Command of a Reserve Division. I wonder if this might account for its pristine condition by apparent lack of use?

--Dwight

Mike B · 03-01-2007, 06:51 PM

Dwight,
Tell me more about "Noll". Where can I find this source?

Mike

Dwight Gruber · 03-01-2007, 07:54 PM

"The Imperial Regimental Unit Markings" by Jeff Noll. It's -the- definitive English-language source book on Imperial unit marking.

Available from the author, see this link http://home.earthlink.net/~nopubl/

--Dwight

05-14-2005, 11:12 AM	#1
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Got my 1910 DWM, Finally I would like to share my success in acquiring a very fine1910 DWM military Luger. I was able to purchase it from the gentleman who actually captured it during the second world war. He is a commercial fisherman in his middle 80's. I had been badgering him about it for years and he finally relented. Here are a few pictures. Oh by the way, he said he has a 22 conversions in a pretty little box, but canÃ¢??t find it. Can that true, or is he thinking of some other pistol some other time in his life? Thanks for looking, Mike B.

05-14-2005, 11:46 AM	#2
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 18 Times in 6 Posts	Congratulations, Mike. Beautiful Luger. Does the magazine match? Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

05-14-2005, 11:52 AM	#4
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	Mike, You were correct. This one is a real jewel. Grip strap marking indicate that it was the first one listed in inventory of this Reserve Dragoon Regiment. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-14-2005, 03:52 PM	#9
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,005 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 5,139 Times in 1,689 Posts	Balder, Look at the second picture. You can see where the hold-open has been added and the proof mark. Mike, Beautiful weapon! Coincidentally, some years ago I also bought a regimentally marked DWM from a friend whose father acquired it in WWII. It is a 1912 in about the same condition as yours and he also had a .22 cal. conversion unit in the large wood box acquired at the same time (I got it too). Funny how these things turn up. My friend's father was an infantry Major at Bastogne and later went on to become a Brigadier General in the Finance Corps! __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

02-27-2007, 11:31 PM	#11
MFC User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 183 Thanked 281 Times in 162 Posts	Hi all, I've seen and held this beautiful Luger. I hope Mike didn't get to mad at my drool all over the gun. Can anyone shed some light on the grip stamps. I think a lot more is known now than when this thread was started. Thanks, Mike C. __________________ Mike C.

05-14-2005, 11:51 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,926 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,523 Times in 2,089 Posts	Very sweet! congrats!! Yes, they made 22 conversions for lugers, and a few other small bore calibers. Was offered one from a friend a year or two ago, and did not have the money Ed

05-14-2005, 12:03 PM	#5
DougT User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 171 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Mike, What a beautiful find! Thanks for posting the photos and the story--it must be really something to get the gun from the man who captured it. Very happy for you. DougT

05-14-2005, 12:18 PM	#6
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Mike Your 1910 DWM is in beautiful condition. The unit stamp is not exactly according to regulations. It should have a number before the R.D. to indicate the number of the reserve dragoon regiment. There were 8 reserve Dragoon regiments numbered 1-8. However, the stamp most likley signifies the 1st Reserve Dragoon Regiment. Please supply the serial number of your Luger for my data base. Thanks Jan Note: the 1st Reserve Dragoon Regiment battled as part of the 108 Infantry Division on both the Eastern and Western Fronts during World War I.

05-14-2005, 12:51 PM	#7
Balder User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 288 Thanks: 20 Thanked 34 Times in 19 Posts	Mike, Congrats on your 1910 DWM - it sure is a beauty! I recently acquired a 1911 DWM that leaves a lot to be desired, finishwise. Does yours have a hold-open? Regards, Balder

05-14-2005, 03:01 PM	#8
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	Mike Link to information on the W mark on your trigger guard. Jan COEÃ¢??S Ã¢??MYSTERIOUS "W"OR "M" MARKINGÃ¢?Â continued. Jan C Still http://www.gunboards.com/luger/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3163

05-14-2005, 06:07 PM	#10
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Thanks for all the kind words and double thanks for all the great information. To answer a few questions: The magazine is not marked. Yes, it does have a hold open latch. It was added by the arsenal after it was built as evidenced by the small proof mark on the right side of the Luger. Oh, and I forgot to mention it is all matching. Thanks again, Mike

02-28-2007, 03:00 AM	#12
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	Amazing.. how a pistol that old can be in such great shape! Must be stored in dry conditions and hardly fired/handled.. my guess is that he never brought this Luger on his fishing boat Congratulations with such a great find! __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

02-28-2007, 07:28 PM	#13
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Perseverance pays. Nice one.

02-28-2007, 10:27 PM	#14
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mike, A beautiful piece in outstanding condition with a nice unit mark. Congratulations! Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-01-2007, 03:41 AM	#15
Steinar User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 1,538 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36 Times in 21 Posts	hurry.. ask him what kind of oil he had been using on it! (my little test will start next week) __________________ Previously known as Morgan Kane

03-01-2007, 12:15 PM	#16
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	Noll lists an alternate interpretation of the grip strap marking R.D. as Command of a Reserve Division. I wonder if this might account for its pristine condition by apparent lack of use? --Dwight

03-01-2007, 06:51 PM	#17
Mike B Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: South Louisiana Posts: 979 Thanks: 1 Thanked 271 Times in 99 Posts	Dwight, Tell me more about "Noll". Where can I find this source? Mike

03-01-2007, 07:54 PM	#18
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,893 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,288 Times in 426 Posts	"The Imperial Regimental Unit Markings" by Jeff Noll. It's -the- definitive English-language source book on Imperial unit marking. Available from the author, see this link http://home.earthlink.net/~nopubl/ --Dwight