Dealers You Buy From

Pete Ebbink · 12-23-2006, 12:51 PM

Poll : To help newcomers to Luger collecting, a Poll might be useful to let them know which dealers our Members would consider buying from.

shadow · 12-23-2006, 09:34 PM

So far I have only bought a Luger and parts from Aaron(from this forum) and Lugerdoc(Tom Heller) I have been more than pleased with both.

I am starting to get the itch for another Luger so this is a timely thread for me.

Chris

Edward Tinker · 12-23-2006, 09:52 PM

I actually have only bought from one dealer (twice) and had satisfactory dealings with Ralph. All my other dealings have been from private individuals; and this was mainly from collector friends.

Ed

stefanosg · 12-23-2006, 10:52 PM

I have three Lugers, all purchased from members of this forum, Hugh, Tom A, and Steve(luscioman). I am 3 for 3, all good experiences and would gladly deal with them again in the future.

jamese · 12-24-2006, 05:47 AM

I too have done buisness w/ Hugh, Doc and lets not forget Geo Anderson !
All of whom can be trusted and are honest people.

Jim

pipeman45 · 12-24-2006, 11:31 AM

Hugh is the only one here that I have purchased a Luger from.
I hear those armadillos do good work.

Ron Smith · 12-25-2006, 09:19 AM

I've bought from Randy bessler, Simpson's, Bob Adams, Charlie Justmann and FGS , as well as several members. All were good to excellent transactions. Never , never buy from a guy who goes by "One Big Gun" Frank Rushin on GB or AA. The guy walks sideways so he get through a door. I did my best to get him banned from the auctions. He ranks up there with Babcock.

Ron

Curly1 · 12-25-2006, 09:36 AM

Charlie Justmans of checkpoint charlies.

BogeyB · 12-25-2006, 12:11 PM

I have bought from Randy Bessler, Bob Simpson, Joe Salter,and David Buehn. All guns were as discribed and service was fast.

Mike

Frank · 12-25-2006, 07:26 PM

My Luck with Adams, Bessler and Simpson wasn't very good. These folks are in the business of selling and have either withheld negative information or outright lied about Lugers I bought from them. I did get refunds from each, BUT it cost me shipping charges both ways. I talked to each by phone before I ordered the pistol!! I wouldn't do business with any of them, unless it is Simpson's and then only when I can talk to Brad Simpson. He has been honest and above board with me.

thegundude · 12-25-2006, 09:39 PM

I've never bought a Luger before. Are they any good for removing hex bolts?

Navy · 12-25-2006, 09:57 PM

For many years and many, many transactions, Simpsons has been reliable. They describe honestly and stand behind their guns, Peter dunster is likewise a VERY reliable dealer.

Tom A

shadow · 12-25-2006, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by thegundude
I've never bought a Luger before. Are they any good for removing hex bolts?

They will remove about anything! They are also good for drilling holes!

Chris

Big Norm · 12-26-2006, 04:08 AM

There are all sorts of dealers out there. There are good ones that I like but have made mistakes and there are bad ones out there who might actually have a good gun. There are some that I personally wouldn't touch with a ten foot poll no matter what they are selling. You really have to read the books, this forum and Jan Stills forum. After a while you will start to get the feel for what luger is good and which one is bad. Even then, there really is no substitute for getting the Luger in your own sweaty hands. The internet has made pricing difficult and has made every small time seller think that his gun is a rare and perfect Luger and for him to price his gun outa sight.

Then there are the counterfeiters. Look at the above Kreighoff discussion of a 1941 HK. Somebody possibly messed up a perfectly good and expensive HK to get a few bucks more on an altered gun. The counterfeiting looks very good. In most cases, the counterfeiting is pretty bad to the experienced eye. On this HK, this forum saved this guy a lot of money. I sometimes wonder if Gibson may have deliberately pictured the two HK's to innocently warn people about the altered HK.
Big Norm

minigun · 12-26-2006, 05:48 PM

I've been pleased with Randy Bessler and Simpsons. I like Simpsons and the other day I have to say they did a good job with me. I asked about a really nice P.38 rig they had. They could have told me that there were no import marks, but were straight up honest about it and didn't seem to mind when I told them I couldn't use the gun if it had the import marks on it. I'd buy from them again (as I've done with three guns in the past). Bessler also has super nice inventory and seems honest about any defects or anything you ask about.

davidkachel · 12-27-2006, 08:24 PM

I've bought only one Luger (not counting the one I bought and sold 30 years ago).
I bought it on this forum from Hugh, and later a set of magnificent grips.
Do I recommend him?
Let's put it this way... any time he comes to my city, I'm buying dinner!
There are a number of other good guys here too. Just read a bunch of posts and you'll know.
I would not buy a Luger except from someone on this forum, or with the advice of someone here. It just makes the process so much simpler and safer.

michele alan · 12-29-2006, 10:38 AM

A very helpful forum member suggestes a dealer names Art Burtis, Heritage Guns, in New Jersey. Anyone else have any experience with him. It would be very helpful to know. Thanks

tudorbug · 12-29-2006, 10:59 AM

Peter Dunster, who is on this forum as "Lugercollector" I believe? Pistol was better than described and I am proud to own it!

David

Pete Ebbink · 12-30-2006, 02:31 PM

I started a real Poll in the General Discussion sections...in case folks do not want to ID themselves...

12-23-2006, 12:51 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Dealers You Buy From Poll : To help newcomers to Luger collecting, a Poll might be useful to let them know which dealers our Members would consider buying from.

12-23-2006, 09:34 PM	#2
shadow User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down The Shore Posts: 245 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	So far I have only bought a Luger and parts from Aaron(from this forum) and Lugerdoc(Tom Heller) I have been more than pleased with both. I am starting to get the itch for another Luger so this is a timely thread for me. Chris __________________ The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference - they deserve a place of honor with all that's good. George Washington

12-23-2006, 10:52 PM	#4
stefanosg User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: East Central Florida Posts: 367 Thanks: 1 Thanked 7 Times in 2 Posts	I have three Lugers, all purchased from members of this forum, Hugh, Tom A, and Steve(luscioman). I am 3 for 3, all good experiences and would gladly deal with them again in the future. __________________ "When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."

12-24-2006, 05:47 AM	#5
jamese User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: South Florida Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 84 Times in 34 Posts	I too have done buisness w/ Hugh, Doc and lets not forget Geo Anderson ! All of whom can be trusted and are honest people. Jim __________________ The "truth" is a matter of Perception

12-24-2006, 11:31 AM	#6
pipeman45 User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Kentucky Posts: 539 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hugh is the only one here that I have purchased a Luger from. I hear those armadillos do good work. __________________ Dave

12-23-2006, 09:52 PM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,924 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts	I actually have only bought from one dealer (twice) and had satisfactory dealings with Ralph. All my other dealings have been from private individuals; and this was mainly from collector friends. Ed

12-25-2006, 09:19 AM	#7
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I've bought from Randy bessler, Simpson's, Bob Adams, Charlie Justmann and FGS , as well as several members. All were good to excellent transactions. Never , never buy from a guy who goes by "One Big Gun" Frank Rushin on GB or AA. The guy walks sideways so he get through a door. I did my best to get him banned from the auctions. He ranks up there with Babcock. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-25-2006, 09:36 AM	#8
Curly1 User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Upstate New York Posts: 1,234 Thanks: 116 Thanked 706 Times in 368 Posts	Charlie Justmans of checkpoint charlies. __________________ Laugh hard and often. Gary

12-25-2006, 12:11 PM	#9
BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 419 Thanks: 0 Thanked 222 Times in 96 Posts	Luger Dealers I have bought from Randy Bessler, Bob Simpson, Joe Salter,and David Buehn. All guns were as discribed and service was fast. Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

12-25-2006, 07:26 PM	#10
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	My Luck with Adams, Bessler and Simpson wasn't very good. These folks are in the business of selling and have either withheld negative information or outright lied about Lugers I bought from them. I did get refunds from each, BUT it cost me shipping charges both ways. I talked to each by phone before I ordered the pistol!! I wouldn't do business with any of them, unless it is Simpson's and then only when I can talk to Brad Simpson. He has been honest and above board with me.

12-25-2006, 09:39 PM	#11
thegundude User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Western NC Posts: 1,137 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 3 Posts	I've never bought a Luger before. Are they any good for removing hex bolts? __________________ Keep your knees in the breeze and your iron in the air. ~Steve

12-25-2006, 09:57 PM	#12
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	For many years and many, many transactions, Simpsons has been reliable. They describe honestly and stand behind their guns, Peter dunster is likewise a VERY reliable dealer. Tom A

12-26-2006, 04:08 AM	#14
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	There are all sorts of dealers out there. There are good ones that I like but have made mistakes and there are bad ones out there who might actually have a good gun. There are some that I personally wouldn't touch with a ten foot poll no matter what they are selling. You really have to read the books, this forum and Jan Stills forum. After a while you will start to get the feel for what luger is good and which one is bad. Even then, there really is no substitute for getting the Luger in your own sweaty hands. The internet has made pricing difficult and has made every small time seller think that his gun is a rare and perfect Luger and for him to price his gun outa sight. Then there are the counterfeiters. Look at the above Kreighoff discussion of a 1941 HK. Somebody possibly messed up a perfectly good and expensive HK to get a few bucks more on an altered gun. The counterfeiting looks very good. In most cases, the counterfeiting is pretty bad to the experienced eye. On this HK, this forum saved this guy a lot of money. I sometimes wonder if Gibson may have deliberately pictured the two HK's to innocently warn people about the altered HK. Big Norm

12-26-2006, 05:48 PM	#15
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	I've been pleased with Randy Bessler and Simpsons. I like Simpsons and the other day I have to say they did a good job with me. I asked about a really nice P.38 rig they had. They could have told me that there were no import marks, but were straight up honest about it and didn't seem to mind when I told them I couldn't use the gun if it had the import marks on it. I'd buy from them again (as I've done with three guns in the past). Bessler also has super nice inventory and seems honest about any defects or anything you ask about.

12-27-2006, 08:24 PM	#16
davidkachel User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 784 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	I've bought only one Luger (not counting the one I bought and sold 30 years ago). I bought it on this forum from Hugh, and later a set of magnificent grips. Do I recommend him? Let's put it this way... any time he comes to my city, I'm buying dinner! There are a number of other good guys here too. Just read a bunch of posts and you'll know. I would not buy a Luger except from someone on this forum, or with the advice of someone here. It just makes the process so much simpler and safer. __________________ A heroin habit would be cheaper.

12-29-2006, 10:38 AM	#17
michele alan User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New Jersey Dealer A very helpful forum member suggestes a dealer names Art Burtis, Heritage Guns, in New Jersey. Anyone else have any experience with him. It would be very helpful to know. Thanks

12-29-2006, 10:59 AM	#18
tudorbug Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Georgia Posts: 387 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 29 Posts	Peter Dunster, who is on this forum as "Lugercollector" I believe? Pistol was better than described and I am proud to own it! David

12-30-2006, 02:31 PM	#19
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	I started a real Poll in the General Discussion sections...in case folks do not want to ID themselves...