Luger Jams Totally Ended

Vboy · 03-22-2006, 07:59 PM

I have posted previously on my shooter Luger that jammed frequently. I cut one coil off the hammer spring and replaced the springs in my Mec-Gar mags with stronger ones from Wolff. Doing both of these things seems to have tuned the Luger up because today I went through about seven mags without a jam. I was shooting with a lady friend who doesn't have a very firm grip, so even possible "limp-wristing" didn't cause a jam. I am very happy with this result.

Vboy

John Sabato · 03-23-2006, 11:07 AM

Very Glad to hear that Vboy... Enjoy!

Edward Tinker · 03-23-2006, 11:11 AM

Congrats on figuring it out!

Rod WMG · 03-23-2006, 03:06 PM

Glad you found success. Happiness is a 100% functioning gun!

Tom M · 04-09-2006, 02:23 PM

How did you change the springs in the Mec-Gar mags? Did you have to drive out the two pins from the baseplate? I'm afraid I'll split the plastic if I do this. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Vboy · 04-09-2006, 02:59 PM

Yes, you have drive out the two pins. The first couple of times I changed the springs, I found this difficult to do. But as I went along it became easier. I think I flattened the point of nail to use as a punch and placed the mag on a piece of wood that had some depressions or hollow areas. I didn't break any of the plastic bottom pieces, although one had previously snapped on its own.

Vboy

G.T. · 04-09-2006, 03:27 PM

Hi Tom & Vboy.. I offer a meggar mag. up grade consisting of a: New GTHQ mag spring, (best available) new spring guide, new reproduction wood bottom, re-pinned and returned to you... $50.00 total.... They work! Best to you, til....lat'r....GT

Luke · 04-11-2006, 07:08 PM

GT -

Is your mag spring replacement a coil or zig-zag type?

Luke

G.T. · 04-11-2006, 07:52 PM

Hi Luke, It is a coil type designed to replace the original type mag. springs from 1900 thru the end of the folded sheetmetal mags.. it will work in the "fxo" type mag shells if the mag is modified to accept the standard wood or aluminum bottom with the hole for the spring to compress down into... this is quite a bit of work to modify one of these mags, but the results are quite spectacular.. with the best of both worlds in function and good looks!
The GTHQ spring for the P.08 mag was designed to barely come into spec. after 20 to 30 full (to solid) compressions.. then the spring would take a permanent set never to change again, until the end of its life... many thousands of cycles.... even if it changed ever so slightly, it would never exceed the mid point of acceptable set, and in this way, never drag on the mag shell itself... It will work on "in spec" originals, MEG-GAR, "fxo's" and ERMA, manufacture mags... when this spring was being set up for production, we stopped the run and changed the material specifications FOUR TIMES! Until it met with the test criteria that I had desired... I tested springs untill I had blisters on both thumbs and a lot of that was with loading tools... each time I had only 12 hours to re-spec, and effect a change... Call up a large manufacture and have him stop and change something in the middle of a production run, and see what that cost ya! As I said before, anytime you make any luger part, and make it correctly.. it has nothing to do with profit, it is simply a quest... I just can't seem to get enough! Best to you Luke... BTW, do you still have that Mauser toggle? I'm still game ... til...lat'r....GT

Lugerdoc · 04-12-2006, 09:29 AM

GT is the master at changing these mag bottoms, but should any of you wish to try it yourself, I do have his springs in stock @$5 each + $2 S&H. TH

03-22-2006, 07:59 PM	#1
Vboy User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Luger Jams Totally Ended I have posted previously on my shooter Luger that jammed frequently. I cut one coil off the hammer spring and replaced the springs in my Mec-Gar mags with stronger ones from Wolff. Doing both of these things seems to have tuned the Luger up because today I went through about seven mags without a jam. I was shooting with a lady friend who doesn't have a very firm grip, so even possible "limp-wristing" didn't cause a jam. I am very happy with this result. Vboy

03-23-2006, 11:07 AM	#2
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Very Glad to hear that Vboy... Enjoy! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-09-2006, 02:23 PM	#5
Tom M User Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 37 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	How did you change the springs in the Mec-Gar mags? Did you have to drive out the two pins from the baseplate? I'm afraid I'll split the plastic if I do this. Thanks for any info you can provide. __________________ Tom

04-09-2006, 03:27 PM	#7
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	Mag up-grades Hi Tom & Vboy.. I offer a meggar mag. up grade consisting of a: New GTHQ mag spring, (best available) new spring guide, new reproduction wood bottom, re-pinned and returned to you... $50.00 total.... They work! Best to you, til....lat'r....GT

04-11-2006, 07:08 PM	#8
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	GT - Is your mag spring replacement a coil or zig-zag type? Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

03-23-2006, 11:11 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Congrats on figuring it out!

03-23-2006, 03:06 PM	#4
Rod WMG User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: The Edge of Texas Posts: 514 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Glad you found success. Happiness is a 100% functioning gun!

04-09-2006, 02:59 PM	#6
Vboy User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Tennessee Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Yes, you have drive out the two pins. The first couple of times I changed the springs, I found this difficult to do. But as I went along it became easier. I think I flattened the point of nail to use as a punch and placed the mag on a piece of wood that had some depressions or hollow areas. I didn't break any of the plastic bottom pieces, although one had previously snapped on its own. Vboy

04-11-2006, 07:52 PM	#9
G.T. Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Chandler Arizona Posts: 3,528 Thanks: 1,334 Thanked 3,711 Times in 1,014 Posts	spring type.. Hi Luke, It is a coil type designed to replace the original type mag. springs from 1900 thru the end of the folded sheetmetal mags.. it will work in the "fxo" type mag shells if the mag is modified to accept the standard wood or aluminum bottom with the hole for the spring to compress down into... this is quite a bit of work to modify one of these mags, but the results are quite spectacular.. with the best of both worlds in function and good looks! The GTHQ spring for the P.08 mag was designed to barely come into spec. after 20 to 30 full (to solid) compressions.. then the spring would take a permanent set never to change again, until the end of its life... many thousands of cycles.... even if it changed ever so slightly, it would never exceed the mid point of acceptable set, and in this way, never drag on the mag shell itself... It will work on "in spec" originals, MEG-GAR, "fxo's" and ERMA, manufacture mags... when this spring was being set up for production, we stopped the run and changed the material specifications FOUR TIMES! Until it met with the test criteria that I had desired... I tested springs untill I had blisters on both thumbs and a lot of that was with loading tools... each time I had only 12 hours to re-spec, and effect a change... Call up a large manufacture and have him stop and change something in the middle of a production run, and see what that cost ya! As I said before, anytime you make any luger part, and make it correctly.. it has nothing to do with profit, it is simply a quest... I just can't seem to get enough! Best to you Luke... BTW, do you still have that Mauser toggle? I'm still game ... til...lat'r....GT

04-12-2006, 09:29 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	GT is the master at changing these mag bottoms, but should any of you wish to try it yourself, I do have his springs in stock @$5 each + $2 S&H. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net