A novel Gun (hidden) Storage idea...

John Sabato · 11-22-2013, 10:37 AM

Just ran across these photos on a motorcycle forum I read... thought that those of you with similar indoor design could use the idea... it's nifty!

rolandtg · 11-22-2013, 11:34 AM

With the cat door looks like they hide the litter box there too.

Olle · 11-22-2013, 11:52 AM

Nice, but I would rather insert a real safe behind the book case. A friend of mine has a custom made safe build into a basement wall, with a large painting in front of it (kind of the classic way to hide it...). He also have air ducts leading to and from it, to keep the air circulating. I'm not sure about that part though, I figure that it could be a disaster in the case of a fire. I'd rather stick to Damp Rid or a Goldenrod.

alanint · 11-22-2013, 12:35 PM

An architect friend who has a multimillion NFA collection has en entire, reenforced concrete room with a similar bookcase opening at the end of a hallway. His is a two ton door that opens on a screw jack, but same idea.

lew1 · 11-22-2013, 12:43 PM

The cat door would suggest to someone that there is open space behind. I do not think that I would have put that in.

lew1 · 11-22-2013, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Olle

Nice, but I would rather insert a real safe behind the book case. A friend of mine has a custom made safe build into a basement wall, with a large painting in front of it (kind of the classic way to hide it...). He also have air ducts leading to and from it, to keep the air circulating. I'm not sure about that part though, I figure that it could be a disaster in the case of a fire. I'd rather stick to Damp Rid or a Goldenrod.

I have a friend who built a house about 15 years ago. His gun room is under the garage, so it is surrounded by concrete wall on all sides, top and bottom - except for the door which came from a bank that closed down. He just has draperies in front of the door.

He used a de-humidifier until about 4 years ago when I mentioned Damp Rid to him.

Maestro · 11-22-2013, 01:36 PM

WOW...

& I was just going to go to IKEA today to look for display cabinets for my little space in the whole house to display my small collection of lugers.. I wonder what something like this would cost

alanint · 11-22-2013, 02:06 PM

To me this set-up is a little obvious. We all KNOW that there is empty space under a stairway! There is either a basement stairway or empty storage space under those stairs. A thief with enough time on the premises would most likely figure this out.

Olle · 11-22-2013, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by lew1

He used a de-humidifier until about 4 years ago when I mentioned Damp Rid to him.

Dehumidifiers are great, until they tear up or you have a power outage. My safe is in my basement/garage/shop and I installed a small, portable dehumidifier many years ago. It's connected to a drain and runs continuously, and I also have a hygrometer on the wall so I can check the humidity now and then. This little thing has kept the humidity down 30-35% in a 2000 ft2 area, but it goes up to 55-60% quickly if the dehumidifier is out of commission (power outage, stopped up drain line, low on freon etc). In the summer, I just have to open the garage door for a few minutes and it will be 90-95%.

Anywho, Damp Rid will always work, so that's what I use in the gun safe. Checking the bucket now and then is no big deal, I'm there every day to pet my babies anyway.

lew1 · 11-22-2013, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Olle

Dehumidifiers are great, until they tear up or you have a power outage. My safe is in my basement/garage/shop and I installed a small, portable dehumidifier many years ago. It's connected to a drain and runs continuously, and I also have a hygrometer on the wall so I can check the humidity now and then. This little thing has kept the humidity down 30-35% in a 2000 ft2 area, but it goes up to 55-60% quickly if the dehumidifier is out of commission (power outage, stopped up drain line, low on freon etc). In the summer, I just have to open the garage door for a few minutes and it will be 90-95%.

Anywho, Damp Rid will always work, so that's what I use in the gun safe. Checking the bucket now and then is no big deal, I'm there every day to pet my babies anyway.

I have a dehumidifier and I use damp rid. The dehumidifier only cuts in on the occasional instance when the humidity gets really high. Fortunately it does not cut in often. The damp rid I use comes in bags which catch the water. (Don't have to worry about knocking the bucket over.)

lew1 · 11-22-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by alanint

To me this set-up is a little obvious. We all KNOW that there is empty space under a stairway! There is either a basement stairway or empty storage space under those stairs. A thief with enough time on the premises would most likely figure this out.

Which is why two other things are needed.

(1) An alarm system, with audible alarm and central monitoring.

(2) Decoy guns. Put out some junkers.

alanint · 11-22-2013, 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lew1

Which is why two other things are needed.

(1) An alarm system, with audible alarm and central monitoring.

(2) Decoy guns. Put out some junkers.

I'm thinking more along the lines of Medieval moats, M134s, Claymores, razor wire and a dozen Killer Shiatsus

ithacaartist · 11-22-2013, 09:07 PM

Claymores a nice touch.

Zorba · 11-22-2013, 10:07 PM

Don't forget alligators and crocodiles in the moat...

alanint · 11-22-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Claymores a nice touch.

David, I'm even thinking of some of the expedient Claymores made by LRRPS from soap dishes. Small enough to put in a toilet bowl, shoeshine kit and even soup kettles!

Welcome to my home!

Olle · 11-24-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ithacaartist

Claymores a nice touch.

Add a curse to it, and it will be like breaking into Tutankhamun's tomb.

Sergio Natali · 11-24-2013, 11:01 AM

Well let me say that many years ago my (ex) wife used to say that my anti-burglar system of that time looked more like what you could see in the film "Home Alone" with Macaulay Culkin

:-)

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11-22-2013, 11:34 AM	#2
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	With the cat door looks like they hide the litter box there too.

11-22-2013, 11:52 AM	#3
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	Nice, but I would rather insert a real safe behind the book case. A friend of mine has a custom made safe build into a basement wall, with a large painting in front of it (kind of the classic way to hide it...). He also have air ducts leading to and from it, to keep the air circulating. I'm not sure about that part though, I figure that it could be a disaster in the case of a fire. I'd rather stick to Damp Rid or a Goldenrod.

11-22-2013, 12:35 PM	#4
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	An architect friend who has a multimillion NFA collection has en entire, reenforced concrete room with a similar bookcase opening at the end of a hallway. His is a two ton door that opens on a screw jack, but same idea.

11-22-2013, 01:36 PM	#7
Maestro User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: "Where the streets have no names" Posts: 504 Thanks: 192 Thanked 200 Times in 136 Posts	WOW... & I was just going to go to IKEA today to look for display cabinets for my little space in the whole house to display my small collection of lugers.. I wonder what something like this would cost

11-22-2013, 02:06 PM	#8
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	To me this set-up is a little obvious. We all KNOW that there is empty space under a stairway! There is either a basement stairway or empty storage space under those stairs. A thief with enough time on the premises would most likely figure this out.

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Zorba User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Merritt Island, Fl Posts: 952 Thanks: 777 Thanked 528 Times in 290 Posts	Don't forget alligators and crocodiles in the moat...