Allied Bombing During WW2

cirelaw · 11-19-2013, 03:47 PM

I wondered if bombing affected luger production late in the was? I quote~ "In August 1945, units of the American 11th Division overran the twin cities of Zella-Mehlis and Suhl. The only damage evident in the cities was that caused by the foreign labor which had celebrated their liberation by much damage and looting. Damage due to the Allies was virtually non-exitant due to the lack of resistance to the American 11th Division during the occupation and the inability of the Allied Air Forces to locate the plants during the war...The Military Governor of Suhl from September 1, 1945 until December of that year was Captain David C. Elder of the 563rd AAA Batallion. He documents that several employees were allowed to re-enter the plant under guard, and assemble several Luger pistols as gifts for members of the Military Government. A newspaper article written shortly after the war documents that American soldiers entered the Krieghoff plants in Suhl and immediatly began assembling Lugers from available parts" The Kriegoff Parabellum.... It appears the Russian destroyed everything! What a loss! ~Eric

Vlim · 11-19-2013, 06:27 PM

Mauser had little problems with bombings during the war. They were only attacked twice and damage was relatively minor and quickly repaired. The second bombing run did knock out the power plant, but the physical production locations were never severely damaged.

Mauser had an interesting protection scheme: The factories lay in a valley, surrounded by high hills. Across these hill steel cables with vertical steel lines, held in place by iron balls, formed a protective curtain that proved to be very effective. Remnants of this 'Fliegersperre' can still be found on the hills outside of Oberndorf am Neckar.

cirelaw · 11-19-2013, 06:36 PM

Did they too fall in Russian hands?

Vlim · 11-19-2013, 06:37 PM

No, worse: In French hands

Oberndorf am Neckar lies about 60 - 65 miles from the French border.

cirelaw · 11-19-2013, 06:45 PM

Oh mon Dieu!!! Effrayant!!!

mrerick · 11-19-2013, 07:44 PM

There is a post about a WW-I raid on Oberndorf at:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ot...er-1916-a.html

There is a picture showing the destroyed power plant at the end of WW-II at:

http://www.mauser.com/1945.189.0.htm..._base%253d&L=1

cirelaw · 11-19-2013, 08:31 PM

Who was arround to build the last luger?

LU1900 · 11-20-2013, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vlim

No, worse: In French hands

Oberndorf am Neckar lies about 60 - 65 miles from the French border.

This is why french luger variation exist !!

cirelaw · 11-20-2013, 08:53 AM

Et Je Posse' un! Ma chance!! Imaginez que!!

11-19-2013, 03:47 PM	#1
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Allied Bombing During WW2 I wondered if bombing affected luger production late in the was? I quote~ "In August 1945, units of the American 11th Division overran the twin cities of Zella-Mehlis and Suhl. The only damage evident in the cities was that caused by the foreign labor which had celebrated their liberation by much damage and looting. Damage due to the Allies was virtually non-exitant due to the lack of resistance to the American 11th Division during the occupation and the inability of the Allied Air Forces to locate the plants during the war...The Military Governor of Suhl from September 1, 1945 until December of that year was Captain David C. Elder of the 563rd AAA Batallion. He documents that several employees were allowed to re-enter the plant under guard, and assemble several Luger pistols as gifts for members of the Military Government. A newspaper article written shortly after the war documents that American soldiers entered the Krieghoff plants in Suhl and immediatly began assembling Lugers from available parts" The Kriegoff Parabellum.... It appears the Russian destroyed everything! What a loss! ~Eric Attached Thumbnails

11-19-2013, 06:27 PM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Mauser had little problems with bombings during the war. They were only attacked twice and damage was relatively minor and quickly repaired. The second bombing run did knock out the power plant, but the physical production locations were never severely damaged. Mauser had an interesting protection scheme: The factories lay in a valley, surrounded by high hills. Across these hill steel cables with vertical steel lines, held in place by iron balls, formed a protective curtain that proved to be very effective. Remnants of this 'Fliegersperre' can still be found on the hills outside of Oberndorf am Neckar. Attached Thumbnails

11-19-2013, 07:44 PM	#6
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	There is a post about a WW-I raid on Oberndorf at: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/ot...er-1916-a.html There is a picture showing the destroyed power plant at the end of WW-II at: http://www.mauser.com/1945.189.0.htm..._base%253d&L=1 __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

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11-19-2013, 06:36 PM	#3
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Did they too fall in Russian hands?

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Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	No, worse: In French hands Oberndorf am Neckar lies about 60 - 65 miles from the French border.

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cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Oh mon Dieu!!! Effrayant!!!

11-20-2013, 08:53 AM	#9
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	Et Je Posse' un! Ma chance!! Imaginez que!!