NAVY Blue Mag...

kidvett · 03-28-2003, 12:27 PM

Good day,

As I'm not a specialist of NAVY's, I'll ask the experts....about that BLUED magazine mismatch but correct period

for my 1916....I never wondered but recently realized that most Navy mags of that period are nickle finish....

Is this mag correct for my pistol??

Thanks

kidvett <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Navy · 03-28-2003, 12:59 PM

The magazine is correct for your pistol based on the concentric ring plug and the correct numbering size and style. The bluing is a Weimar-era add on most likely.

Hope this helps,
Tom A.

John Sabato · 03-31-2003, 12:18 PM

Absolutely excellent photographs Kidvett! Hey Tom A, these photos would be excellent examples for Navy chracteristics don't you think (regarding our photo discussion last week)?

kidvett · 03-31-2003, 10:25 PM

Hello John,

Thanks! Those PICS are done with a NIKON COOLPIX 4500 that I recently bought following Forum members advices...

kidvett

Navy · 03-31-2003, 10:30 PM

Kidvett et al,

I know what I am doing with the next extra thou that comes my way...those are some SOOPER pix; I'd bet even a half blind old fart like me could make that sucker work...but then again, maybe not. Tom A.

kidvett · 03-31-2003, 10:39 PM

Hello Tom,

Well for the PICS: I'm no better that everyone & I'm still learning how to use the camera.

A question about this Navy Serial 1557 ( no suffix ) Would production date be around October 1916

thanks

kidvett

Navy · 03-31-2003, 10:56 PM

Hi Kidvett,

Estimated production of the 1916 Navy pieces was 7000 + according to J.Still; accordingly, I would opine that your gun was a "spring chickie", produced sometime during the second or third month of 1916; this assumes, of course, a "straight line" production based on mean numbers. We know that this was, in fact, not the case, but no one seems to have better numbers.
As we do not have any day to day or month to month records of production, this would be about as tight as I think one could be comfortable with dating the piece.

FWIW, I really like those pictures.

Tom A.

Silvereagle29 · 04-02-2003, 02:02 AM

Kidvett
I dumped a few marbles and sticks in my crystal ball, shook it twice and dumped it on the floor. RE: Blue magazine bodies. Crystal balls mess on the floor says they appeared in the - M - block of the Mauser Military Luger production in 1936. For what it's worth, the crystal ball has never seen a 1906/1914 Kaiserliche Marine Luger with
anything other than a nickel body. If I can find it, I'll check my other crystal ball, blue one that is full of greasy rags and witches' tongues. Maybe these parts when combined and dumped on the floor on top of the other mess might point us in the direction of a nickel base magazine number 1557 or maybe close.
Great pictures.

Navy · 04-02-2003, 02:05 PM

I believe the bluing was done over the top of a corroded nickle body; definately not original.
Tom A

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03-28-2003, 12:59 PM	#2
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	The magazine is correct for your pistol based on the concentric ring plug and the correct numbering size and style. The bluing is a Weimar-era add on most likely. Hope this helps, Tom A.

03-31-2003, 10:25 PM	#4
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello John, Thanks! Those PICS are done with a NIKON COOLPIX 4500 that I recently bought following Forum members advices... kidvett

03-31-2003, 10:30 PM	#5
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Kidvett et al, I know what I am doing with the next extra thou that comes my way...those are some SOOPER pix; I'd bet even a half blind old fart like me could make that sucker work...but then again, maybe not. Tom A.

03-31-2003, 10:39 PM	#6
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Hello Tom, Well for the PICS: I'm no better that everyone & I'm still learning how to use the camera. A question about this Navy Serial 1557 ( no suffix ) Would production date be around October 1916 thanks kidvett

03-31-2003, 10:56 PM	#7
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	Hi Kidvett, Estimated production of the 1916 Navy pieces was 7000 + according to J.Still; accordingly, I would opine that your gun was a "spring chickie", produced sometime during the second or third month of 1916; this assumes, of course, a "straight line" production based on mean numbers. We know that this was, in fact, not the case, but no one seems to have better numbers. As we do not have any day to day or month to month records of production, this would be about as tight as I think one could be comfortable with dating the piece. FWIW, I really like those pictures. Tom A.

04-02-2003, 02:02 AM	#8
Silvereagle29 User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 105 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Kidvett I dumped a few marbles and sticks in my crystal ball, shook it twice and dumped it on the floor. RE: Blue magazine bodies. Crystal balls mess on the floor says they appeared in the - M - block of the Mauser Military Luger production in 1936. For what it's worth, the crystal ball has never seen a 1906/1914 Kaiserliche Marine Luger with anything other than a nickel body. If I can find it, I'll check my other crystal ball, blue one that is full of greasy rags and witches' tongues. Maybe these parts when combined and dumped on the floor on top of the other mess might point us in the direction of a nickel base magazine number 1557 or maybe close. Great pictures.

04-02-2003, 02:05 PM	#9
Navy RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dc 'burbs in Virginia Posts: 2,482 Thanks: 0 Thanked 16 Times in 10 Posts	I believe the bluing was done over the top of a corroded nickle body; definately not original. Tom A