1914 DWM safety bar

LP08 · 09-03-2002, 07:36 PM

Hi folks,

Inspecting a military P08, I notice this DWM 1914 date is otherwise a standard military but has a blank safety bar. I have seen only s/n'd safety bars previously. The condition of the P08 is 95% plus and all parts look original. Were any early P08 safety bars unnumbered? The books all show numbered bars (I am talking about the bar that pops up--not the external hand operated lever).

Luke · 09-03-2002, 07:37 PM

My 1914 DWM military has a numbered safety bar.
Luke

Herb · 09-03-2002, 09:13 PM

All the ones I have seen are numbered although I do have a spare that is blank.

Aaron · 09-03-2002, 09:53 PM

There are some photos of my DWM 1914 in the Owner's Corner under "Aaron." It has a numbered safety bar.

Garfield · 09-03-2002, 10:13 PM

The safety bar should have been numbered to the pistol when it was originally assembled. If it is not then the two explanations are(in order of probability):
1. it is a replacement
2. some one on the assembly line wasn't
paying attention.

Pete Ebbink · 09-03-2002, 10:45 PM

Hello David,

Both my 1918 DWM Arty and my 1916 DWM P-08 have the numbers stamped.

Regards,

Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

LP08 · 09-04-2002, 03:09 AM

Thanks for the replies. It sure looks original and the pistol is overall not one that looks like it was rebuilt. If a part was replaced, it seems it would not be that part but who can say.

Thanks.

Garfield · 09-04-2002, 03:58 AM

LP08:

I agree. What goes wrong with a safety bar? However, the fact remains that it "should" be rumbered to the pistol. Who knows? The Shadow do.

Lugerdoc · 09-04-2002, 10:24 AM

I agree that the safety bar on a DWM 1918 military should have the last two digits of the S/N marked on it near the top center (later Mauser moved location further aft). Commerical safety bars were unnumbered. Chances are this is what you have (better no number that the wrong number school). If you will let me know the number needed, I'll see if I have it. Hellerarms@webtv.net

Carl · 09-04-2002, 06:09 PM

To Garfield,
So you were "The Shaddow"!he,he,he

John Sabato · 09-04-2002, 06:29 PM

Sorry Carl... you may or may not have been joking, but it wasn't Garfield... I know who it was (and I'm not him either)...

The "shadow" can't post to the lugerforum anymore because this board prohibits anonymous posts...

so let's not open that can of worms again please.

BTW, I just received the article on Luger restorations in the mail today... thanks a bunch!

Edward Tinker · 09-04-2002, 09:00 PM

Carl I got my copy today too! Thanks I appreciate it.

[img]smile.gif[/img]

09-03-2002, 07:36 PM	#1
LP08 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1914 DWM safety bar Hi folks, Inspecting a military P08, I notice this DWM 1914 date is otherwise a standard military but has a blank safety bar. I have seen only s/n'd safety bars previously. The condition of the P08 is 95% plus and all parts look original. Were any early P08 safety bars unnumbered? The books all show numbered bars (I am talking about the bar that pops up--not the external hand operated lever).

09-03-2002, 07:37 PM	#2
Luke User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NC - USA Posts: 1,239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 19 Times in 7 Posts	My 1914 DWM military has a numbered safety bar. Luke __________________ "Peace, if possible; truth, at any cost." . . . Martin Luther

09-03-2002, 09:13 PM	#3
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	All the ones I have seen are numbered although I do have a spare that is blank. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

09-04-2002, 10:24 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I agree that the safety bar on a DWM 1918 military should have the last two digits of the S/N marked on it near the top center (later Mauser moved location further aft). Commerical safety bars were unnumbered. Chances are this is what you have (better no number that the wrong number school). If you will let me know the number needed, I'll see if I have it. Hellerarms@webtv.net __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

09-04-2002, 06:29 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	Sorry Carl... you may or may not have been joking, but it wasn't Garfield... I know who it was (and I'm not him either)... The "shadow" can't post to the lugerforum anymore because this board prohibits anonymous posts... so let's not open that can of worms again please. BTW, I just received the article on Luger restorations in the mail today... thanks a bunch! __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-03-2002, 09:53 PM	#4
Aaron Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 1,008 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts	There are some photos of my DWM 1914 in the Owner's Corner under "Aaron." It has a numbered safety bar.

09-03-2002, 10:13 PM	#5
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The safety bar should have been numbered to the pistol when it was originally assembled. If it is not then the two explanations are(in order of probability): 1. it is a replacement 2. some one on the assembly line wasn't paying attention.

09-03-2002, 10:45 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Hello David, Both my 1918 DWM Arty and my 1916 DWM P-08 have the numbers stamped. Regards, Pete... <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" />

09-04-2002, 03:09 AM	#7
LP08 User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the replies. It sure looks original and the pistol is overall not one that looks like it was rebuilt. If a part was replaced, it seems it would not be that part but who can say. Thanks.

09-04-2002, 03:58 AM	#8
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	LP08: I agree. What goes wrong with a safety bar? However, the fact remains that it "should" be rumbered to the pistol. Who knows? The Shadow do.

09-04-2002, 06:09 PM	#10
Carl User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Central PA Posts: 113 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 2 Posts	To Garfield, So you were "The Shaddow"!he,he,he

09-04-2002, 09:00 PM	#12
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,974 Thanks: 2,072 Thanked 4,607 Times in 2,123 Posts	Carl I got my copy today too! Thanks I appreciate it. [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

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