New mark to me

[DonVoigt]

Originally Posted by John Sabato

Don,

Although I am not fluent in the German language, I was obliged to study the language for about 4 years way back in the middle of the last century....the German word "sicher" does as you indicate mean "safe" (or "secure") The use of the prefix Ge- as in Gesichert, indicates the past tense in a similar manner that the suffix -ed does in English....Therefore the appropriate translation of the word in German context would be "secured" or made safe. In a similar manner, the use of the "Geladen" on the extractor is translated as "loaded".

The use of the word "SAFE" on the guns intended for export to the USA, is intended to mimic those guns made in the USA where the word SAFE was used. Not many firearms made in this country were manufactured with loaded chamber indicators, so the Germans really didn't know what to mimic. They literally translated "Geladen" into the word "Loaded"...

I can't point you to a reference for this speculation, but my rusty (not trusty) German language skills combined with my small arms history knowledge and experience are the basis for my opinion.


So in the context of German language, the 'Gesichert" label in use for the Luger safety would be translated as "secured" (or "safe") in the American context.

Now if that didn't totally confuse you... I will try harder to raise the level of obfuscation on the issue in my next installment.

John,
I'm not any more confused than usual- but the actual "literal" translation would be "safed", the past tense of "to safe". If there is such a verb in English.

My only point was that the meaning of Gesichert is "safe" to an American pistolero(how is that for mixing languages) when applied to that position on a luger pistol.

I used to try to use "pig-german"(as in pig-latin) when traveling in Germany, it is amazing how often just putting a "Ger" in front of an English verb will work for a past tense.