new luger pls help with ID

benboga · 03-16-2014, 07:59 PM

hello,
I am new here and would like to get some info on my new acquisition.
I hope the pics came out ok.
Thanks

mrerick · 03-16-2014, 09:10 PM

What would you like to know?

The magazine looks after-market, rather than period.

You have the million dollar chip on the left grip.

The trigger and safety lever left the factory in strawed finish on this gun. Photos look blued.

I can't make out details of the markings. You'll get better pictures by using a digital camera rather than cellphone type camera; set it on closeup; use a tripod and use the self timer to eliminate camera shake. Shoot in indirect (shaded) sunlight.

Marc

benboga · 03-16-2014, 09:33 PM

I will take better pics of the markings
I cant see the chip in the left grip? I may just be blind
I guess this is a shooter then?

DavidJayUden · 03-16-2014, 10:07 PM

The chip is a tiny bit of wood chipped away behind the safety lever, caused by carelessly lifting the lt. grip panel up during removal.
Lots of Lugers have it, and that alone does not a shooter make.
I'll take a leap here and let's assume that the gun is numbers matching except the magazine. If that is correct then I would call it a lower end collectable gun.
On the other hand I may be seeing a mismatched takedown lever, and the blued finish on certain parts may suggest other parts from other periods. That would probably make if a shooter.
It shows lots of wear, but it looks like honest wear and it has a story to go with each of its scars.
What is the asking price or sale price, and what are you wanting to do with it?
While it will probably shoot fine, that old of a gun MAY be more prone to breaking parts, which will kill it's value considerably IF it is matching now.
We need to know if it is matched or not, price, etc, and we'll go from there.
Welcome aboard.
dju

Edward Tinker · 03-16-2014, 10:13 PM

http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=31977

and then you should talk about what you see in person

Geo99 · 03-18-2014, 02:02 AM

This gun appears to have some reblue (likely cold blue) on it, that can account for the "blue" appearance on strawed parts. I would say it's worth $900, but ONLY if all the numbers match.

I would bet the grips are not original (there is a slim chance they might be) - they just look too nice given the condition of the rest of the gun, and most if not all 1918 Lugers have beech grips, not walnut.

- Geo

Sergio Natali · 03-18-2014, 04:28 AM

Fabian

Welcome to this forum of Luger enthusiasts.

Mine doesn't want to be a criticism at all, it's a nice gun, but it has been in parts rebuffed and probably the walnut grips are not original, then it jumps to my eye that they seem a bit too new for the age of the Luger.
IMHO

Sergio

benboga · 03-18-2014, 11:23 AM

thanks for all your input. i bought this for 1235 including shipping. i bought it online. i guess i paid too much. the gun is all matching but i noticed the magazine is too new looking. there is no number on the center toggle pin. I supposed they were also numbered. The firing pin is numbered tot he gun.
Its a learning experience. i learned how to field strip it and put it back together. i found a problem with resetting the firing pin. I bought a couple of sear springs from luger doc and i am hopeful it will fix the problem. If not thats ok. i know what to look for next time :-)
i do appreciate and welcome any comments as stated im here to learn

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benboga User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: warner robins ga Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	new luger pls help with ID hello, I am new here and would like to get some info on my new acquisition. I hope the pics came out ok. Thanks Attached Thumbnails

03-16-2014, 09:10 PM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,909 Thanks: 1,374 Thanked 3,110 Times in 1,510 Posts	What would you like to know? The magazine looks after-market, rather than period. You have the million dollar chip on the left grip. The trigger and safety lever left the factory in strawed finish on this gun. Photos look blued. I can't make out details of the markings. You'll get better pictures by using a digital camera rather than cellphone type camera; set it on closeup; use a tripod and use the self timer to eliminate camera shake. Shoot in indirect (shaded) sunlight. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

03-18-2014, 02:02 AM	#6
Geo99 User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Whidbey Island WA Posts: 398 Thanks: 102 Thanked 125 Times in 74 Posts	This gun appears to have some reblue (likely cold blue) on it, that can account for the "blue" appearance on strawed parts. I would say it's worth $900, but ONLY if all the numbers match. I would bet the grips are not original (there is a slim chance they might be) - they just look too nice given the condition of the rest of the gun, and most if not all 1918 Lugers have beech grips, not walnut. - Geo __________________ "Diplomacy is the art of saying nice doggie, until you can find a rock." - Will Rogers

03-18-2014, 04:28 AM	#7
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,082 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Fabian Welcome to this forum of Luger enthusiasts. Mine doesn't want to be a criticism at all, it's a nice gun, but it has been in parts rebuffed and probably the walnut grips are not original, then it jumps to my eye that they seem a bit too new for the age of the Luger. IMHO Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

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03-16-2014, 09:33 PM	#3
benboga User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: warner robins ga Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I will take better pics of the markings I cant see the chip in the left grip? I may just be blind I guess this is a shooter then?

03-16-2014, 10:07 PM	#4
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The chip is a tiny bit of wood chipped away behind the safety lever, caused by carelessly lifting the lt. grip panel up during removal. Lots of Lugers have it, and that alone does not a shooter make. I'll take a leap here and let's assume that the gun is numbers matching except the magazine. If that is correct then I would call it a lower end collectable gun. On the other hand I may be seeing a mismatched takedown lever, and the blued finish on certain parts may suggest other parts from other periods. That would probably make if a shooter. It shows lots of wear, but it looks like honest wear and it has a story to go with each of its scars. What is the asking price or sale price, and what are you wanting to do with it? While it will probably shoot fine, that old of a gun MAY be more prone to breaking parts, which will kill it's value considerably IF it is matching now. We need to know if it is matched or not, price, etc, and we'll go from there. Welcome aboard. dju

03-16-2014, 10:13 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,930 Thanks: 2,030 Thanked 4,527 Times in 2,090 Posts	http://forum.lugerforum.com/showthread.php?t=31977 and then you should talk about what you see in person

03-18-2014, 11:23 AM	#8
benboga User Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: warner robins ga Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	thanks for all your input. i bought this for 1235 including shipping. i bought it online. i guess i paid too much. the gun is all matching but i noticed the magazine is too new looking. there is no number on the center toggle pin. I supposed they were also numbered. The firing pin is numbered tot he gun. Its a learning experience. i learned how to field strip it and put it back together. i found a problem with resetting the firing pin. I bought a couple of sear springs from luger doc and i am hopeful it will fix the problem. If not thats ok. i know what to look for next time :-) i do appreciate and welcome any comments as stated im here to learn