Unit Description on a 1910 P08

ldepersia · 12-18-2013, 09:23 AM

I have a 1910 P08 handed down to me by my Father. He took it from a surrendering German Officer toward the end of WWII. The grip has the following Unit Description: 13.T.S.1.54

Can anyone tell me what unit that is?

Also, it does not have a hold open latch and spring. I originally thought it was missing/lost but I have seen some references to the fact that some of the earlier models did not include the hold open latch - is that correct for a 1910 model?

Thanks.

alanint · 12-18-2013, 09:35 AM

Yes, that would be correct for a 1910, which was never upgraded with the holdopen. Most holdopens started appearing on factory guns around 1913.

George Anderson · 12-18-2013, 11:09 AM

The unit marking indicates that it was a medic's gun; Train Battalion 13, 1st Sanitaets Compagnie, Waffe 54. The unit was part of the 13th Army Corps from Wuertemberg. Many Wuertemberg issued P08s were never retrofitted with hold-opens.

ldepersia · 12-18-2013, 12:07 PM

Thanks for the info.

Lee

George Anderson · 12-18-2013, 12:12 PM

May I know the serial number with letter suffix?

ldepersia · 12-18-2013, 12:39 PM

The serial number is 4945. No suffix.

I am (hopefully) attaching a photo of the proof markings on the right side. Any idea what they mean? It also has DWM on the top.

ldepersia · 12-18-2013, 05:29 PM

Sorry. I guess I never looked at the serial number that close before. There is a small letter 'c' below the serial number.

MikeP · 12-19-2013, 01:06 AM

I have a 1910 I have ownedfor 45 years.
It has a hold open. I believe there is a little proof mark by where it was added.
Away from home for a few days and don't have the serial number.

It is marked to 1st Uhlans.

ithacaartist · 12-19-2013, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ldepersia

Sorry. I guess I never looked at the serial number that close before. There is a small letter 'c' below the serial number.

Yup, that's the suffix, and it is part of the complete serial number.

12-18-2013, 09:23 AM	#1
ldepersia New User Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Unit Description on a 1910 P08 I have a 1910 P08 handed down to me by my Father. He took it from a surrendering German Officer toward the end of WWII. The grip has the following Unit Description: 13.T.S.1.54 Can anyone tell me what unit that is? Also, it does not have a hold open latch and spring. I originally thought it was missing/lost but I have seen some references to the fact that some of the earlier models did not include the hold open latch - is that correct for a 1910 model? Thanks.

12-18-2013, 12:39 PM	#6
ldepersia New User Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The serial number is 4945. No suffix. I am (hopefully) attaching a photo of the proof markings on the right side. Any idea what they mean? It also has DWM on the top. Attached Thumbnails

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12-18-2013, 09:35 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,916 Times in 1,192 Posts	Yes, that would be correct for a 1910, which was never upgraded with the holdopen. Most holdopens started appearing on factory guns around 1913.

12-18-2013, 11:09 AM	#3
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	The unit marking indicates that it was a medic's gun; Train Battalion 13, 1st Sanitaets Compagnie, Waffe 54. The unit was part of the 13th Army Corps from Wuertemberg. Many Wuertemberg issued P08s were never retrofitted with hold-opens.

12-18-2013, 12:07 PM	#4
ldepersia New User Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks for the info. Lee

12-18-2013, 12:12 PM	#5
George Anderson Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: VA Posts: 3,592 Thanks: 1,773 Thanked 2,528 Times in 787 Posts	May I know the serial number with letter suffix?

12-18-2013, 05:29 PM	#7
ldepersia New User Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Sorry. I guess I never looked at the serial number that close before. There is a small letter 'c' below the serial number.

12-19-2013, 01:06 AM	#8
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	I have a 1910 I have ownedfor 45 years. It has a hold open. I believe there is a little proof mark by where it was added. Away from home for a few days and don't have the serial number. It is marked to 1st Uhlans.