Question about VoPo Luger proof

www.prussia.us · 01-25-2013, 07:48 PM

I am not interested in buying the Luger (certainly not at that price), but I would like to know about the prof mark.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327357312

Okay picture #7

The right hand side of the receiver near the barrel is stamped
"P M P"

Anyone know what that stands for?

lugersrkewl · 01-25-2013, 07:58 PM

found this on Jans board dated 2012 with no responses

"The exact meaning of the PMP marking is still unknown but there is some speculation on its meaning Police Mecklenburg Pommern but no proof has yet surfaced to its validity".

now Im curious if its in world of lugers by Costanza

the p38 forum explains it as a PVP symbol but after seeing your pic it is PMP on that one as well
heres the link to that pic http://www.p38guns.com/LugerPVP.htm

Lugerdoc · 01-26-2013, 08:55 AM

Or it could be that the owner forgot to add the "I" in PIMP.TH

lugersrkewl · 01-26-2013, 11:18 AM

ha , that was my first thought.
the only other thing I found on the web was the proletarian military policy . P.M.P but....

Vlim · 01-26-2013, 11:44 AM

There are early post-WW2 marking instructions that can explain the presence of large markings like these. The allies agreed to avoid rearming German police officials with captured German equipment, but if there was a need to reuse German equipment it had to be clearly marked as being issued with allied consent.

So this is probably a pistol that was reissued early after WW2, after which it went through the DDR refurbishing program almost a decade later.

Andyd · 02-02-2013, 10:47 AM

One of mine is so marked on the front strap.

01-25-2013, 07:48 PM	#1
www.prussia.us User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NY Posts: 40 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Question about VoPo Luger proof I am not interested in buying the Luger (certainly not at that price), but I would like to know about the prof mark. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=327357312 Okay picture #7 The right hand side of the receiver near the barrel is stamped "P M P" Anyone know what that stands for?

01-26-2013, 08:55 AM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Or it could be that the owner forgot to add the "I" in PIMP.TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

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01-25-2013, 07:58 PM	#2
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	found this on Jans board dated 2012 with no responses "The exact meaning of the PMP marking is still unknown but there is some speculation on its meaning Police Mecklenburg Pommern but no proof has yet surfaced to its validity". now Im curious if its in world of lugers by Costanza the p38 forum explains it as a PVP symbol but after seeing your pic it is PMP on that one as well heres the link to that pic http://www.p38guns.com/LugerPVP.htm

01-26-2013, 11:18 AM	#4
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	ha , that was my first thought. the only other thing I found on the web was the proletarian military policy . P.M.P but....

01-26-2013, 11:44 AM	#5
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	There are early post-WW2 marking instructions that can explain the presence of large markings like these. The allies agreed to avoid rearming German police officials with captured German equipment, but if there was a need to reuse German equipment it had to be clearly marked as being issued with allied consent. So this is probably a pistol that was reissued early after WW2, after which it went through the DDR refurbishing program almost a decade later.

02-02-2013, 10:47 AM	#6
Andyd User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Kaufman County, Texas Posts: 48 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	One of mine is so marked on the front strap.