Mauser Commercial

Marine 3 · 11-24-2012, 05:12 PM

Today I traded for a Luger that is a new style to me. This is only the third one I have ever owned!

It is a 9mm four inch and dated 1939 over the chamber. It is serial no. 7418. All the numbers match except the magazine.
I am told that it is a Commercial "Banner" Mauser. I would say it is in very good shape and finish with an excellent bore. It feeds and fires quite well.

I have about $1,400 invvested in it. In your opinions did I do well or not so well? Let me know along with any other information you can provide.
Thanks,
Marine 3

SteveM · 11-24-2012, 05:37 PM

Pics are needed to say whether or not you did well..what police mark does it have on right side of receiver?

Marine 3 · 11-24-2012, 06:09 PM

Sorry, there are no police marks and I don't have pics capability.
Marine 3

SteveM · 11-24-2012, 06:59 PM

Ok, Commercial Banner then, pics would be nice bt if not possible then not possible.

DavidJayUden · 11-24-2012, 08:04 PM

So does it say MAUSER ont he toggle? Wood grips? does it have the sear safety lever?
dju

Edward Tinker · 11-25-2012, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine 3

Sorry, there are no police marks and I don't have pics capability.
Marine 3

Don, without pictures, then you can best find prices by looking in a guide or gunbroker. Find one that matches yours.

For a wild guess, you have to give a much better description.

Markings on left or right / toggle is marked as? / Matching magazine? / Condition? Any pits? Any loss of bluing? / holster or anything with it?

Personally, I would expect it NOT to be a police, very few 1939 police exist (I have one upstairs from a WW2 Vet / friend)

Ed

sheepherder · 11-25-2012, 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marine 3

Sorry, there are no police marks and I don't have pics capability.
Marine 3

If you have access to a scanner, you can drape a T-shirt over the pistol and scan to pics and attach them here...

...If you have a scanner...

lugersrkewl · 11-25-2012, 06:56 PM

Welcome to the forum

most commercial pistols dont have chamber dates I can tell you that without pics

Edward Tinker · 11-25-2012, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugersrkewl

Welcome to the forum

most commercial pistols dont have chamber dates I can tell you that without pics

If accepted into military service, I think they got them, but I would have to get third reich lugers out....

Marine 3 · 11-25-2012, 08:31 PM

The following is some additional information on my Mauser Banner Luger.

"MAUSER" is marked on the toggle
There is a "Crown U" proof mark on the left side just above the7418 serial no.

There is what appears to be a cursive letter "W" on the front of the frame just below the 7418 serial no.

It is chamber marked "1939"

There is no sear safety
There is no pitting and good blueing (85%)

All parts are serial no. matched 7418 except the magazine
which is number 9383 and has an aluminum base.

It has good condition wood (walnut?) checkered grips.

The seller tells me he thinks it is a commercial manufactured
Mauser Banner Luger that stayed civilian and was never
a military or police pistol.

I hope this helps,
Thanks,
Marine 3

mrerick · 11-25-2012, 08:38 PM

Hi, This search:

http://www.simpsonltd.com/advanced_s...822812&x=0&y=0

should show you a few similar Lugers...

I think you did well if everything is as expected from your descriptions...

Marc

Marine 3 · 11-27-2012, 07:13 AM

Thanks to all who responded to help me out. It appears that finacially I did OK, but more important then that, I have a nice functioning Luger to play with and pass on to my grandsons.
I will watch the forum for more information.
Thanks again,
Marine 3
Don

Lugerdoc · 11-30-2012, 09:57 AM

Marine, Your #7418w Mauser Banner is in the correct serial number range for a 1939 Commerical according to Costanzo WOL book. TH

Edward Tinker · 11-30-2012, 11:00 AM

if it is dated, then it did NOT stay as a commercial !!

Vlim · 11-30-2012, 01:32 PM

Oh, yes it did

Mauser diverted quite a bit of commercial contracts from the regular production, including chamber dates. Documented example: The Dutch Navy contract lugers which have chamber dates.

Here is another 'Commercial' Mauser banner, all matching numbers, with chamber date, as well as a Dutch 1937 dated Navy contract:

Marine 3 · 11-30-2012, 06:09 PM

Thanks again to all for the good information.
While cleaning this pistol I found the "Crown U" proof on the left side of the breach bolt and on the front of the front sight in addition to the left side of the reciever. The bolt is numbered9383 and has a "stick eagle" with 83 under it.

That is all the marks I can find.
Marine 3

Marine 3 · 12-11-2012, 02:28 PM

Correction for a mistake in my last post that I just noticed---

The MAGAZINE is numbered 9383 and has a "stick eagle" under it. Not the BOLT.
Marine 3

11-24-2012, 05:12 PM	#1
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Mauser Commercial Today I traded for a Luger that is a new style to me. This is only the third one I have ever owned! It is a 9mm four inch and dated 1939 over the chamber. It is serial no. 7418. All the numbers match except the magazine. I am told that it is a Commercial "Banner" Mauser. I would say it is in very good shape and finish with an excellent bore. It feeds and fires quite well. I have about $1,400 invvested in it. In your opinions did I do well or not so well? Let me know along with any other information you can provide. Thanks, Marine 3

11-25-2012, 08:38 PM	#11
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	Hi, This search: http://www.simpsonltd.com/advanced_s...822812&x=0&y=0 should show you a few similar Lugers... I think you did well if everything is as expected from your descriptions... Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-30-2012, 09:57 AM	#13
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Marine, Your #7418w Mauser Banner is in the correct serial number range for a 1939 Commerical according to Costanzo WOL book. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-30-2012, 01:32 PM	#15
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Oh, yes it did Mauser diverted quite a bit of commercial contracts from the regular production, including chamber dates. Documented example: The Dutch Navy contract lugers which have chamber dates. Here is another 'Commercial' Mauser banner, all matching numbers, with chamber date, as well as a Dutch 1937 dated Navy contract: Attached Thumbnails

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11-24-2012, 05:37 PM	#2
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Pics are needed to say whether or not you did well..what police mark does it have on right side of receiver?

11-24-2012, 06:09 PM	#3
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Sorry, there are no police marks and I don't have pics capability. Marine 3

11-24-2012, 06:59 PM	#4
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Ok, Commercial Banner then, pics would be nice bt if not possible then not possible.

11-24-2012, 08:04 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	So does it say MAUSER ont he toggle? Wood grips? does it have the sear safety lever? dju

11-25-2012, 06:56 PM	#8
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	Welcome to the forum most commercial pistols dont have chamber dates I can tell you that without pics

11-25-2012, 08:31 PM	#10
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	The following is some additional information on my Mauser Banner Luger. "MAUSER" is marked on the toggle There is a "Crown U" proof mark on the left side just above the7418 serial no. There is what appears to be a cursive letter "W" on the front of the frame just below the 7418 serial no. It is chamber marked "1939" There is no sear safety There is no pitting and good blueing (85%) All parts are serial no. matched 7418 except the magazine which is number 9383 and has an aluminum base. It has good condition wood (walnut?) checkered grips. The seller tells me he thinks it is a commercial manufactured Mauser Banner Luger that stayed civilian and was never a military or police pistol. I hope this helps, Thanks, Marine 3

11-27-2012, 07:13 AM	#12
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Thanks to all who responded to help me out. It appears that finacially I did OK, but more important then that, I have a nice functioning Luger to play with and pass on to my grandsons. I will watch the forum for more information. Thanks again, Marine 3 Don

11-30-2012, 11:00 AM	#14
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	if it is dated, then it did NOT stay as a commercial !!

11-30-2012, 06:09 PM	#16
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Thanks again to all for the good information. While cleaning this pistol I found the "Crown U" proof on the left side of the breach bolt and on the front of the front sight in addition to the left side of the reciever. The bolt is numbered9383 and has a "stick eagle" with 83 under it. That is all the marks I can find. Marine 3

12-11-2012, 02:28 PM	#17
Marine 3 User Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post	Correction for a mistake in my last post that I just noticed--- The MAGAZINE is numbered 9383 and has a "stick eagle" under it. Not the BOLT. Marine 3