My Newly Acquired byf 41, 60%-70%

hyrax222 · 08-03-2011, 08:51 PM

Well I was so thrilled to finally get a Luger after wanting one since I was 7 years old. I have bought some books and read at a number of forums and conclude:
I have probably one of the most produced, boring and least disireable Luger ever made. And that makes sad...

Norme · 08-03-2011, 10:56 PM

Hi Steven, There is no such thing as a boring military Luger. Your gun undoubtedly saw service in WW2, it's a piece of history to be proud of. Best regards, Norm

Edward Tinker · 08-04-2011, 01:10 AM

yes for sure!

And the most produced and boring was the 1940 / 42 and i have one at home, and any luger has a lot of history!

Ed

hyrax222 · 08-04-2011, 06:52 PM

Thanks All. I actually LOVE it! I wish I had the $ to get another... the BUG has bitten....

CAP Black · 08-04-2011, 09:40 PM

I see that there is being shown as a rare Mauser that is a BYF 1941. You might do a search and find that item and see how yours matches up.
Perhaps you will owe your new purchase an apology?
jack

hyrax222 · 08-06-2011, 03:40 PM

Where can I view it?

Feamane · 08-07-2011, 06:49 PM

Hi,

Well, if they are so copiously produced, boring and undesirable then why can't I find a nice 95% byf 41 for, say $600???

Regards,
DJ

Jack Lawman · 08-08-2011, 11:20 AM

The rarity lies in the waffenampts. From Jan Still http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=22701 :

The right receiver acceptance stamps determine byf 41 markings variations. They are as follows:
SE655 SE655 LTP reported serial range 4636o-4627ns (estimated production 120,300)
SE655 SE135 LTP reported serial range 4801ns-7491ns (estimated production 2,700)
SE135 SE135 LTP reported serial range 7478ns-1121b (estimated production 14,500)

"SE" stands for "stick eagle". "ns" stands for "no suffix". "LTP" stands for "late test proof".

If you have a SE655 SE135 or a SE135 SE135, you have a rarer variation than the SE655 SE655.

Jack

hyrax222 · 08-08-2011, 06:38 PM

It's an SE135,SE135,LTP Ser. no. 2917 ns.

Thanks for suppling me with much needed information. I
would have all pertinent books, but they are out of print and cost as much as my Luger.

Doubs · 08-08-2011, 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyrax222

It's an SE135,SE135,LTP Ser. no. 2917 ns.

Thanks for suppling me with much needed information. I
would have all pertinent books, but they are out of print and cost as much as my Luger.

Ain't that the dying truth? I have several of Jan Still books, Costanza and others. I'm flabbergasted by the prices they seem to bring.

Jack Lawman · 08-08-2011, 09:41 PM

Hope is on the horizon... Jan Still is preparing a revision to "Third Reich Lugers".

May be out in a few months, his last releases were available for just under a hundred bucks (of course past performance is no guarantee of future results

).

Your serial number appears to be out of the range of the third variation. Serial no. 2917 ns looks like it belongs in the SE655 SE655 range. Can you post pictures?

hyrax222 · 08-09-2011, 12:39 AM

That's what I though too. So I put on my Optivisor to make sure I was reading the marks corrrectly. My Crashtimatic camera will not take close ups of these tiny stamps. I shall try at any rate.

hyrax222 · 08-15-2011, 02:10 PM

Serial no. is 9217 ns. Sorry for my dislexia.

08-03-2011, 08:51 PM	#1
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	My Newly Acquired byf 41, 60%-70% Well I was so thrilled to finally get a Luger after wanting one since I was 7 years old. I have bought some books and read at a number of forums and conclude: I have probably one of the most produced, boring and least disireable Luger ever made. And that makes sad...

08-04-2011, 01:10 AM	#3
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	yes for sure! And the most produced and boring was the 1940 / 42 and i have one at home, and any luger has a lot of history! Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

08-04-2011, 09:40 PM	#5
CAP Black User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Fairmont, WV Right here in Mountaineer country and God's country Posts: 767 Thanks: 100 Thanked 174 Times in 96 Posts	Be careful of being too hasty. I see that there is being shown as a rare Mauser that is a BYF 1941. You might do a search and find that item and see how yours matches up. Perhaps you will owe your new purchase an apology? jack Last edited by CAP Black; 08-04-2011 at 10:59 PM. Reason: Error

08-08-2011, 11:20 AM	#8
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	byf 41 Variations The rarity lies in the waffenampts. From Jan Still http://luger.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=22701 : The right receiver acceptance stamps determine byf 41 markings variations. They are as follows: SE655 SE655 LTP reported serial range 4636o-4627ns (estimated production 120,300) SE655 SE135 LTP reported serial range 4801ns-7491ns (estimated production 2,700) SE135 SE135 LTP reported serial range 7478ns-1121b (estimated production 14,500) "SE" stands for "stick eagle". "ns" stands for "no suffix". "LTP" stands for "late test proof". If you have a SE655 SE135 or a SE135 SE135, you have a rarer variation than the SE655 SE655. Jack __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

08-08-2011, 09:41 PM	#11
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Third Reich Lugers Hope is on the horizon... Jan Still is preparing a revision to "Third Reich Lugers". May be out in a few months, his last releases were available for just under a hundred bucks (of course past performance is no guarantee of future results ). Your serial number appears to be out of the range of the third variation. Serial no. 2917 ns looks like it belongs in the SE655 SE655 range. Can you post pictures? __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much? Last edited by Jack Lawman; 08-08-2011 at 09:47 PM. Reason: addl. info

08-03-2011, 10:56 PM	#2
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Hi Steven, There is no such thing as a boring military Luger. Your gun undoubtedly saw service in WW2, it's a piece of history to be proud of. Best regards, Norm

08-04-2011, 06:52 PM	#4
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Thanks All. I actually LOVE it! I wish I had the $ to get another... the BUG has bitten....

08-06-2011, 03:40 PM	#6
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Where can I view it?

08-07-2011, 06:49 PM	#7
Feamane User Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Hi, Well, if they are so copiously produced, boring and undesirable then why can't I find a nice 95% byf 41 for, say $600??? Regards, DJ

08-08-2011, 06:38 PM	#9
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	It's an SE135,SE135,LTP Ser. no. 2917 ns. Thanks for suppling me with much needed information. I would have all pertinent books, but they are out of print and cost as much as my Luger.

08-09-2011, 12:39 AM	#12
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	That's what I though too. So I put on my Optivisor to make sure I was reading the marks corrrectly. My Crashtimatic camera will not take close ups of these tiny stamps. I shall try at any rate.

08-15-2011, 02:10 PM	#13
hyrax222 User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Oregon City Posts: 62 Thanks: 90 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Serial no. is 9217 ns. Sorry for my dislexia.

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