What is a 'good' trigger pull?

[G.T.]

Well Michael, I love lugers as much or more then the next guy... But I learned very early on that they were never designed, or intended to have match grade sights, and target triggers... And yes, a few have been successfully converted, and a few have even won in tough competition..... I'm even trying to build one myself, like I said, I love'em!!.. But, that puts Lugers solidly in about the .0009 percentile (If even that??) of winning guns in the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of pistol matches shot over the last seventy five years... .....Also, I have experienced that when a competitor is backed by a factory... his chances are markedly improved... I think the reason you see a lot of 1911 types shooting in competition, is because they work well for it, and people win with them... Simple as that, If the Luger held the magic at the contest, they'd all be shooting them...
And sometimes, right guy, right gun, it's just your day.. I've seen excellent pistol shots, and it really didn't matter what they shot, as long as there were some sights and the trigger wasn't welded solid... (I think they could still beat me with those handicaps...)... So, I guess I respectfully disagree with the notion that the Luger in any form, will compete with a match grade 1911, probably on any level, with the exception of perhaps the WW battlefields, I don't think the German Army, in the whole of (both) war(s), had as many stoppages and failures to feed as we peacetime shooters do! ... .. Best to all, til...lat'r...GT

[Michael Zeleny]

Originally Posted by G.T.

Well Michael, I love lugers as much or more then the next guy... But I learned very early on that they were never designed, or intended to have match grade sights, and target triggers... And yes, a few have been successfully converted, and a few have even won in tough competition..... I'm even trying to build one myself, like I said, I love'em!!.. But, that puts Lugers solidly in about the .0009 percentile (If even that??) of winning guns in the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of pistol matches shot over the last seventy five years... .....Also, I have experienced that when a competitor is backed by a factory... his chances are markedly improved... I think the reason you see a lot of 1911 types shooting in competition, is because they work well for it, and people win with them... Simple as that, If the Luger held the magic at the contest, they'd all be shooting them...

Competition favors whatever is the most available among the admissible devices. Heinrich Keller prevailed over Huelet Benner for the 1949 ISSF world title with his 7.65 Luger pitted against the American's S&W revolver, notwithstanding the latter's putative superiority in the sight picture and the trigger pull. W+F Lugers are still plentiful and highly competitive in Swiss Schützenfesten. All it takes to make them so is a U-notch rear sight modification and trigger tuning with the armorer's tool shown above.

[G.T.]

Hi Michael, I hope someday to be able to make a few Luger parts, and the first place I would start is fire control parts... Maybe someday, the Luger will have a resurgence, relatively speaking.. And then, newly made parts will make a difference, so back to the original issue, at least with me.. matching numberd gun, (too nice to mess with), and expensive replacement parts, especially fire control parts, certainly keep the Luger down with all but a few of us die hards... As with my original post, mistakes, deemed too expensive to fix, passed on to others, have rendered far more Lugers worth less, rather then more accurate... and, I hope to someday be able to straighten a few of them out! Best to you Michael, til...lat'r....GT
BTW, what would one consider the best rear sight for the Luger, what would be the criteria needed to be a good target sight.. ?? Just wondering on opinions...

[hgreer2]

I have an artilley with fine tuned front and rear sights, a little over engineered IMHO. I just wondered if it would make a good target gun ?

Harry

[Michael Zeleny]

The toggle action of the Luger is guaranteed to shake loose any commercially available target sight assembly attached to it within 10,000 rounds or thereabouts. This fact hasn't stopped German and Swiss gunsmiths from mounting the likes of LPA sights on the rear toggle.

The Artillery Luger tends to be more tolerant of various loads owing to greater inertia of its reciprocating cannon assembly. Also, attaching the board stock tends to stabilize the frame in the recoil cycle to a similar effect. However, its sight radius is the shortest among the standard military issues, and the standard v-notch sight picture tends to inspire objections among shooters accustomed to the square notches of present day handgun sights.