Help identify a few magazines please

Wilhelm · 03-26-2011, 11:43 PM

Hi Guys,

As you know, I'm more a shooter than a collector. The lugers I have, I have to shoot. My head spins when I'm trying to figure out all the stamps and features I'm looking at because I'm not too bright. What concerns me most is whether or not they shoot and are all of the parts original arsenal bits. I don't care if they match so long as they work! Same with magazines. I bought a few recently simply to use. I know that they're not modern repros. but that's about all I know. Only one of the three (magazine "1") are marked with anything besides a serial and two of the three (magazines "2" and "3") have been renumbered at some point. You guys can tell in an instant what you are looking at (I'll never under stand how you do....majik I figure) so please tell me what I bought. It doesn't really matter I guess but i always like to know at least a little bit about what I'm using so as not to be completely ignorant! Anywho, in the first two pictures, mag. "1" is on bottom and "3" is on top. In the second two, "1" is on the left and "3" is on the right. The best part is...they were cheap and they work! If you need more or better pictures, just ask. Thanks in advance for any information you guys can give me.

Hugo Borchardt · 03-27-2011, 05:25 PM

I believe the first one is an original WW2-era Nazi proofed military magazine, perhaps for a Mauser S/42. The other two are police magazines. I am unsure of the date range on the latter two. All three look to be in great condition. The first one may be worth over a hundred bucks by itself if it is unaltered.

tharpo · 03-27-2011, 07:27 PM

I believe #545 and #3611 are post war East German Police mags.

Wilhelm · 03-28-2011, 12:06 AM

Wouldn't they be marked with the "2/1001" marking on the left side? Every Eastie I've ever seen was marked that way.

Lugerdoc · 03-28-2011, 10:50 AM

I agree with the above comments. You may find DDR extruded mags with "off center" pinned alum bottoms on reworked WW2 code 122, FXO or unmarked tubes, as well as on their 2/1001 marked ones. TH

Wilhelm · 03-28-2011, 11:04 AM

Great!! I was hoping that numbers 2 and 3 were DDR mags but I thought that the Easties always have the 1001 stamp. It only makes sense that they reworked old mags as well as making new ones but it had never occured to me. I guess it's true that you learn something new every day. Clark, the first magazine has not been altered and came from a different source than the other two. It's in original condition. If anyone has the pistol that it goes to, contact me and we can possibly work out a trade for an Eastie magazine/s in similar condition. Anywho, thanks for the advise guys!

Georgesd · 05-22-2011, 05:23 PM

Hello Wilhelm,
Would you consider selling the E63 marked 2949q?
I am looking for a magazine close to the 2944 range for a 1939 code 42 Luger.
Thanks,
George

sheepherder · 05-22-2011, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

If you need more or better pictures, just ask.

Wilhelm -

I'm sure that there are others here who would benefit from the pics you have...but not if they're on PhotoBucket...

PhotoBucket regularly 'upgrades' their site, now using Flash for uploads, and I can speak from experience that pics posted to PB can get re-listed under another URL and be lost to anyone who tries to link to them...and others who use an OS/browser that does not have the latest Flash upgrade can be left pic-less as well*...

So...LugerForums management/moderators strongly suggest that you post your pics right to your thread, here...and they will be preserved for those of us who Search for them here in the future...

Thank You!

* (I lost all my tutorial pics on "Lathe Milling And Threading The Buffer Tube Hole" over at CNCGuns.com because PB changed to Flash uploading...and my OS & browser did not support the required Flash upgrade...)

Edward Tinker · 05-23-2011, 01:40 AM

I would slightly rephrase above, that they were 'used' by the east germans, not that they are east german magazines. Real, made for the east german magazines are marked 2/1001, just as ww1 magazines were used by the weimar police, they still originally were WW1 mags.

Ed

Wilhelm · 05-25-2011, 08:59 PM

Ask and ye shall receive postino ol' buddy!

George, I'm not interested in selling it but I'll trade it even up for a DDR produced magazine stamped with either serial 4924 or serial 722. OR I'll trade it even up fore two DDR produced mags with any serial number in equal condition to the magazine in question.

Wilhelm · 05-25-2011, 09:00 PM

Ed, thanks for the clarification!

sheepherder · 05-25-2011, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wilhelm

Ask and ye shall receive postino ol' buddy!

You could have simply replaced the photobucket pics with the LugerForum pics...

Ed Tinker usually derides members for linking off-forum pics, but he's busy chasing Osama Bin Laden in Iraq right now...wait...no, that's not right...He's looking for Saddam Hussein...No, that's not right either...

Ed is currently sipping pina coladas with Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf somewhere in SouthWest Asia...

Wilhelm · 05-25-2011, 09:38 PM

Fact is, I'm a Technoidiot....I'm dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to these electronic boxes. Hell, it's a miracle I can even figure out how to post anything at all! I'll figure it all out someday.....

03-26-2011, 11:43 PM	#1
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Help identify a few magazines please Hi Guys, As you know, I'm more a shooter than a collector. The lugers I have, I have to shoot. My head spins when I'm trying to figure out all the stamps and features I'm looking at because I'm not too bright. What concerns me most is whether or not they shoot and are all of the parts original arsenal bits. I don't care if they match so long as they work! Same with magazines. I bought a few recently simply to use. I know that they're not modern repros. but that's about all I know. Only one of the three (magazine "1") are marked with anything besides a serial and two of the three (magazines "2" and "3") have been renumbered at some point. You guys can tell in an instant what you are looking at (I'll never under stand how you do....majik I figure) so please tell me what I bought. It doesn't really matter I guess but i always like to know at least a little bit about what I'm using so as not to be completely ignorant! Anywho, in the first two pictures, mag. "1" is on bottom and "3" is on top. In the second two, "1" is on the left and "3" is on the right. The best part is...they were cheap and they work! If you need more or better pictures, just ask. Thanks in advance for any information you guys can give me. __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

03-27-2011, 05:25 PM	#2
Hugo Borchardt User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Tennessee Posts: 372 Thanks: 340 Thanked 143 Times in 48 Posts	I believe the first one is an original WW2-era Nazi proofed military magazine, perhaps for a Mauser S/42. The other two are police magazines. I am unsure of the date range on the latter two. All three look to be in great condition. The first one may be worth over a hundred bucks by itself if it is unaltered. __________________ My militaria collection is dedicated to the memory of my Grandfather, Marine Gunnery Sergeant Dave Hill, Jr., wounded in action at The Assault of the Second Marine Division on Betio Island, Tarawa Atoll, 20-23 November, 1943. http://www.tarawa1943.com/pages/casualties%20tarawa.htm Last edited by Hugo Borchardt; 03-27-2011 at 05:29 PM. Reason: ..if unaltered

03-28-2011, 12:06 AM	#4
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Wouldn't they be marked with the "2/1001" marking on the left side? Every Eastie I've ever seen was marked that way. __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

03-28-2011, 11:04 AM	#6
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Great!! I was hoping that numbers 2 and 3 were DDR mags but I thought that the Easties always have the 1001 stamp. It only makes sense that they reworked old mags as well as making new ones but it had never occured to me. I guess it's true that you learn something new every day. Clark, the first magazine has not been altered and came from a different source than the other two. It's in original condition. If anyone has the pistol that it goes to, contact me and we can possibly work out a trade for an Eastie magazine/s in similar condition. Anywho, thanks for the advise guys! __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

05-22-2011, 05:23 PM	#7
Georgesd User Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 34 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	would you consider selling? Hello Wilhelm, Would you consider selling the E63 marked 2949q? I am looking for a magazine close to the 2944 range for a 1939 code 42 Luger. Thanks, George

03-27-2011, 07:27 PM	#3
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	I believe #545 and #3611 are post war East German Police mags.

03-28-2011, 10:50 AM	#5
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	I agree with the above comments. You may find DDR extruded mags with "off center" pinned alum bottoms on reworked WW2 code 122, FXO or unmarked tubes, as well as on their 2/1001 marked ones. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

05-23-2011, 01:40 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I would slightly rephrase above, that they were 'used' by the east germans, not that they are east german magazines. Real, made for the east german magazines are marked 2/1001, just as ww1 magazines were used by the weimar police, they still originally were WW1 mags. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-25-2011, 08:59 PM	#10
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Ask and ye shall receive postino ol' buddy! George, I'm not interested in selling it but I'll trade it even up for a DDR produced magazine stamped with either serial 4924 or serial 722. OR I'll trade it even up fore two DDR produced mags with any serial number in equal condition to the magazine in question. Attached Thumbnails __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

05-25-2011, 09:00 PM	#11
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Ed, thanks for the clarification! __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

05-25-2011, 09:38 PM	#13
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	Fact is, I'm a Technoidiot....I'm dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to these electronic boxes. Hell, it's a miracle I can even figure out how to post anything at all! I'll figure it all out someday..... __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

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