Need some honest help

dgrboone · 12-30-2009, 04:19 PM

I have a DWM 7.65 MM Luger, with a 3 3/4" barrel, serial # 4852 with Germany underneath. It is in very good condition, with two clips (one I believe to be original). What would a gun like this be worth?

Thank you,

D.Boone
Round Rock, TX

FNorm · 12-30-2009, 04:34 PM

We really need pictures to tell anything. See the albums section, or other posts for examples of what we need to see. Right now it sounds like you have a early 1920s commercial. On the front of the frame is there a letter under the ser. no? See here, technical sections, markings for examples.

FN

DavidJayUden · 12-30-2009, 05:34 PM

Has this been re-blued? Edges are looking a bit rounded from the photos.
Regardless, given the market on .30 commercials, approx. value at this time is $1000, give or take a hundred.
Pretty Luger.
dju

Dwight Gruber · 12-30-2009, 05:50 PM

This gun has definitely been buffed and reblued, and under the circumstances you should consider yourself fortunate if someone will give you $500 for it.

--Dwight

Edward Tinker · 12-30-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgrboone

Thanks, but I can tell when a gun has be re-blued. The guy I bought from found it in his late Fathers' stuff. He didn't know squat about it and wouldn't have had the wherewithal to have it redone.

Perhaps you can, but Dwight has a finer eye for guns than most people I know.

Several people gave you good answers.

Reblued, maybe $500

Non reblued then maybe $900-$1000

Ed

Edward Tinker · 12-30-2009, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgrboone

Has what to appears to be a cursive "O" which I think is 1916.

It could be, but if no date on the top, then it was redone by someone. In addition, the germany on the front is an obvious export markign to the USA, and the "o" suffix WAS used in the 1920's.

What are the proofs? I see no WW1 proofs on the right and can't see a crown N on the left.

From these photo's it does look reblued to me too...

Ed

Vlim · 12-30-2009, 07:43 PM

Have to agree with Dwight and Ed. Finish is too shiney and the edges have lost their sharpness due to the pre-blue buffing.

FNorm · 12-30-2009, 07:53 PM

The 'o' series would have been made the last half of 1925, first part of 1926.

FN

alvin · 12-30-2009, 08:28 PM

$150 in 1985 converting to today's dollar is

$300.14 using the Consumer Price Index
$264.27 using the GDP deflator
$325.67 using the value of consumer bundle
$302.49 using the unskilled wage
$402.27 using the nominal GDP per capita
$513.62 using the relative share of GDP

Even more interesting, Stoeger priced NIB 7,65 DWM Luger at $50 in 1928. Converting to today's dollar is

$628.44 using the Consumer Price Index
$513.24 using the GDP deflator
$1,275.64 using the value of consumer bundle
$2,036.90 using the unskilled wage
$2,934.72 using the nominal GDP per capita
$7,416.13 using the relative share of GDP

information supplied by http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/

Ice · 12-30-2009, 08:30 PM

Ain't inflation jus woonderful!

Charlie

Ron Wood · 12-30-2009, 08:36 PM

David,
I am flattered that you would want my opinion. But I am afraid it is the same as the other gentlemen, the gun has been buffed and re-blued.

squint · 12-30-2009, 11:06 PM

Wish the pictures were still up.

Thor · 12-31-2009, 01:34 AM

Yep, would have liked to have seen the pictures.

12-30-2009, 04:19 PM	#1
dgrboone New User Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need some honest help I have a DWM 7.65 MM Luger, with a 3 3/4" barrel, serial # 4852 with Germany underneath. It is in very good condition, with two clips (one I believe to be original). What would a gun like this be worth? Thank you, D.Boone Round Rock, TX

12-30-2009, 04:34 PM	#2
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	We really need pictures to tell anything. See the albums section, or other posts for examples of what we need to see. Right now it sounds like you have a early 1920s commercial. On the front of the frame is there a letter under the ser. no? See here, technical sections, markings for examples. FN Last edited by FNorm; 12-30-2009 at 04:49 PM. Reason: add

12-30-2009, 08:36 PM	#11
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	David, I am flattered that you would want my opinion. But I am afraid it is the same as the other gentlemen, the gun has been buffed and re-blued. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

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Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Yep, would have liked to have seen the pictures. __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

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12-30-2009, 05:34 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Has this been re-blued? Edges are looking a bit rounded from the photos. Regardless, given the market on .30 commercials, approx. value at this time is $1000, give or take a hundred. Pretty Luger. dju

12-30-2009, 05:50 PM	#4
Dwight Gruber User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 3,908 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1,330 Times in 435 Posts	This gun has definitely been buffed and reblued, and under the circumstances you should consider yourself fortunate if someone will give you $500 for it. --Dwight

12-30-2009, 07:43 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Have to agree with Dwight and Ed. Finish is too shiney and the edges have lost their sharpness due to the pre-blue buffing.

12-30-2009, 07:53 PM	#8
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	The 'o' series would have been made the last half of 1925, first part of 1926. FN

12-30-2009, 08:28 PM	#9
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	$150 in 1985 converting to today's dollar is $300.14 using the Consumer Price Index $264.27 using the GDP deflator $325.67 using the value of consumer bundle $302.49 using the unskilled wage $402.27 using the nominal GDP per capita $513.62 using the relative share of GDP Even more interesting, Stoeger priced NIB 7,65 DWM Luger at $50 in 1928. Converting to today's dollar is $628.44 using the Consumer Price Index $513.24 using the GDP deflator $1,275.64 using the value of consumer bundle $2,036.90 using the unskilled wage $2,934.72 using the nominal GDP per capita $7,416.13 using the relative share of GDP information supplied by http://www.measuringworth.com/uscompare/

12-30-2009, 08:30 PM	#10
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Ain't inflation jus woonderful! Charlie

12-30-2009, 11:06 PM	#12
squint User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 15 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Wish the pictures were still up.