Russian Lugers at Phoenix Investment Arms

[Imperial Arms]

Rich,

You probably enjoy reading fiction about Lugers as well as accepting various flawed information mentioned by PIA, so I suggest that you do some reading which may help you and save your wallet.

Albert

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Imperial Arms

Rich,

You probably enjoy reading fiction about Lugers...

Yes, I will get to that thread soon...Right now I am reading about Spandau Lugers and Deaths Head Lugers over at Jan Stills site...and Swedish & Finnish Lahti's at WarRelics.eu... Much interesting stuff being presented there...

Still puzzled about why a railroad - whether in Germany, Finland, or Sweden - would need sidearms...Did the British railroad also carry sidearms??? Why would any of them???

[sheepherder]

Land of Borchardt has a page devoted to the Russian Lugers...Even listing verified serial numbers...

http://www.landofborchardt.com/other.html

[Imperial Arms]

Originally Posted by postino

Land of Borchardt has a page devoted to the Russian Lugers...Even listing verified serial numbers...

http://www.landofborchardt.com/other.html

Rich,

Give me a break (from LOB)! - "Even listing verified serial numbers...". Are you also going to mention that the M1900 Mexican Army contract Lugers are 'verfied'? You have obviously not carefully read my first article about the 'Russian Lugers'. I suggest you read my two articles on the same topic and gain some 'universal' knowledge before you go out to do any 'shopping' and make a serious mistake.

The web site "Land of Borchardt" should be changed to the "Land of Bull****" as a result of the many errors it contains!

Albert

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by Imperial Arms

I suggest you read my two articles...

Albert -

Actually, I was just over at your site looking at your collection of Interesting Firearms (including the cased Bolo w/stock that Alvin lusts after! )...but except for a single picture of each, there is no description or story behind each example...

Do you have anecdotes about each of these??? Like many here, I enjoy the stories (or history) behind an unusual pistol...

[Imperial Arms]

Originally Posted by postino

Albert -

Actually, I was just over at your site looking at your collection of Interesting Firearms (including the cased Bolo w/stock that Alvin lusts after! )...but except for a single picture of each, there is no description or story behind each example...

Do you have anecdotes about each of these??? Like many here, I enjoy the stories (or history) behind an unusual pistol...

Hello Rich,

When I had created my web site, I did not see any reason to write a story for each item because most of the information could be found in reference books such as 'Lugers at Random'. When it comes to the more rare and expensive pistols, I just happened to notice that there was less interest in these pistols when the majority of the collectors on the forums are interested in pistols that they can afford such as military Lugers, C96 'Red Nines' and Walther PP/PPK pistols, all of which I appreciate and admire.

Some of my pistols have a very interesting background and I shall share this information if I receive a question. The web site LOB wants to 'brag' about his level of expertise and the importance of this collection, and he designed his web site around this goal. Of course, many collectors say 'Wow' when they view/visit LOB, but unfortunately, they do not know what is occurring under the 'surface' as well as not realizing that some of the rambling articles are flawed and make no sense with regards to actual historical events. One of the strategies of LOB is to apply his archive of literature to write his 'stories' and I can say with confidence that my archive is larger and more important than LOB. Furthermore, I have been able to interprete this vast amount of information better than LOB in conjunction with my fellow collectors in Europe instead of relying on a handful shady individuals.

Many collectors want to receive a continous 'rush of excitement' by discovering new information without being patient or getting involved in the quest for knowledge. They want everything served on a silverplater and that will not happen by sitting on one's rear-end, or going to gun shows to chat with beer-buddies.

You have no idea how much time I spend talking with collectors all around the world by telephone, VoIP or on forums, whereas LOB remains invisible. LOB has a 'colorful' web site, but the writer behind the web site does not impress me. In addition, dealers or collectors who endorse such people put a bad taste in my mouth because these are the people who spoil this great hobby of collecting.

Albert

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by Imperial Arms

Hello Rich,

When I had created my web site, I did not see any reason to write a story for each item because most of the information could be found in reference books such as 'Lugers at Random'. ...

Albert

Folks do not make a website unless they are trying to show off their things, whether you call this bragging or not. There is no reason to have a website except to show things off or attempt to sell something.

When I see a bunch of pictures, i have no idea if the owner even owns the guns themself. (I am sure you do, but your vaugness is a bit odd about the pieces)


It doesn't hurt to be from germany to be in the area and study, but you always act as if being european gives you a better understanding of lugers by being european. That makes little sense.




Ed

PS: I did read your writings on the russian guns, but I am not convinced that russian contracts don't exist. I have always felt they were a small contract and the earliest books talk about them being a contract (but then they talk about mexican lugers too, and I don't beleive in any of them)

[Don M]

Originally Posted by postino

Still puzzled about why a railroad - whether in Germany, Finland, or Sweden - would need sidearms...Did the British railroad also carry sidearms??? Why would any of them???

A bit of the history of the German Railway Police may be found in Chapter 19 of History Writ in Steel. Germany still has an armed Bahnschutz.