Newbie with a question

[Edward Tinker]

Originally Posted by alanint

If these ideal grips are on anything other than a vintage American Eagle Luger they are in violation of the NFA.

only if the stock is attached.
You can own both, just not legally attach the stock, say if you were at the range.

Presently the regulations state:

Luger, DWM Pistol, model 1900, 1902, or 1906, in 7.65 Luger or 9mm parabellum cal., having the American Eagle chamber crest, and barrel lengths of either 4" or 4-3/4", with original detachable Ideal shoulder stocks and Ideal frame grips.

The ATF regulations should be modified to read this (the american eagle phrase taken out, as this would include all the models, because any of these could be bought at that time frame):

Luger, DWM Pistol, model 1900, 1902, or 1906, in 7.65 Luger or 9mm parabellum cal., and barrel lengths of either 4" or 4-3/4", with original detachable Ideal shoulder stocks and Ideal frame grips.

What it comes down to is that whomever first put in the request, I bet this was their wording because they had a 1900 AE or the like and never thought about the commericial variants sold in the USA at the time.

Ed

[rohrboughc]

Here are photos of the luger

[rohrboughc]

word of mouth history of the gun....great grandfather (1st gen american) on a visit to the fatherland, pre WW1, purchased the pistol and brought it home...as is... never been messed with, with the exception of it was dropped once cracking the wood base on a mag....a new one was handcarved by g-gf.

further markings on the weapon are

BG
U
172,28

on the barrel

matching s/n's

GERMANY

on front reciever

s/n is early 5000's

[Edward Tinker]

Here is a bit of info (although you might already know this)

American Eagles AND non AE marked guns were sent to the USA (I am slowly learning and taking information using up Dwights time)

BG
U
Commonoly called BUG proofing, this proofing was the civilian proof at the time, later guns were then nitro proofed, i.e. Crown N

172,28
This is the land to land measurement, and coorsponds to the caliber 7.65mm (30 luger)

GERMANY
Actually, this is a export marking only for the USA, so either your great grandfather bought it and requested to have it sent to the USA, or he bought it in the USA... perhaps the family story was confused a bit

on front reciever

s/n is early 5000's

Dwight Gruber has a listing with all the serial numbers known (to him), if you could shoot him the entire sn he'd like that if you don't want to publish it here or send it to me and I'll pass it along

ed_tinker@hotmail.com


Very beautiful rig, I love it.


Ed

[rohrboughc]

one more pic of the ideal stock. This side has the bad wear spot corresponding with the front of the reciever. discoloration on the metal is not rust, but I am afraid to "polish it out" without ruining the rest of the finish. Also the leather is going...any product to hold off falling apart? any advice would be appreciated would like to keep in good condition now that it has been entrusted to me.