Effect of hot/Tokarev loads on Broomhandle???

[rolandtg]

Originally Posted by Vlim

Looks like this one was assembled incorrectly in the past and some effort was needed to release the upside down mainspring locking lug. If that lug is put in the wrong way round, dismantling becomes impossible as the mechanism locks itself in place.

Wait, what?!
I don't know a lot about Mauser broomhandles but what kind of gun is designed so that improper assembly results in the weapon being permanently disabled?

How is it possible that any military in the world would accept a gun like this?

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by rolandtg

Wait, what?!
I don't know a lot about Mauser broomhandles but what kind of gun is designed so that improper assembly results in the weapon being permanently disabled?

How is it possible that any military in the world would accept a gun like this?

I think Vlim is referring to the rocker coupling, which can be installed backwards and won't allow the pistol to be disassembled or shot without some serious tomfoolery...J. B. Wood came up with a tool to unlock the mainspring without drilling a hole, but the hole in this one isn't in the same place that "old timers" drilled them...

And Germany never officially adopted the M1896...

[rolandtg]

Originally Posted by postino

I think Vlim is referring to the rocker coupling, which can be installed backwards and won't allow the pistol to be disassembled or shot without some serious tomfoolery...J. B. Wood came up with a tool to unlock the mainspring without drilling a hole, but the hole in this one isn't in the same place that "old timers" drilled them...

And Germany never officially adopted the M1896...

Yes, I know the Germans didn't adopt the M1896.
But other armies used it and many civilians.

I just didn't know that about these guns and I find it amazing that Mauser didn't change the design at some point to fix this.

It's one thing to assemble a handgun incorrectly and have it not work.
It's another thing to assemble a handgun incorrectly and have it be seriously disabled.

[sheepherder]

Originally Posted by rolandtg

It's another thing to assemble a handgun incorrectly and have it be seriously disabled.

It would definitely ruin my day...

[alvin]

Originally Posted by rolandtg

I just didn't know that about these guns and I find it amazing that Mauser didn't change the design at some point to fix this.

This problem is not as big as it sounds, because it's not part of field striping. Detail striping needs some attention.... I had a Ruger Security Six, I disassembled everything without taking pictures nor writing down notes at each step, and I could not put it back. A little bit embarrassing.

If Mauser had made the axis of the coupling asymetrical, the problem would have been gone. Simple enough but they did not do it. Maybe they did not notice this issue.