Any Ideas ? Anybody...Anybody!

rlbrutke · 11-24-2006, 12:03 PM

Ok...I went a purchased a Luger book that looked like it had every proof stamp and inspection mark known to man. Except the one that's on this gun!!!! If anyone can help or advise, it would be greatly appreciated.

This first of four, according to the book, should only be on the 1908 model...this is a model 1914 stamped military pistol. Why would it be on this model?

The fourth seems to be a simple Test Fire Stamp.

The second and third stamp....I haven't a clue. There is nothing in my book that even resembles these two stamps.

I have drawn out the symbols as they do not show up well in an actual photo... I hope my pictionary skills are up to snuff.
Thanks!

micmacman · 11-24-2006, 12:14 PM

the forth is a common Imperial German proof,pre Nazi era,shows up on weapons since the late 1800's

drawing is kinda obscured to make out what the third is suppose to be,more than likely a simple inspection proof,they very from one to another and your book is more than likely simply giving an sample example,atleast this is true for rifles from the era

Jan C Still · 11-24-2006, 12:26 PM

rlbrutke
You said "This first of four, according to the book"
What book do you have?

The markings roughly translate into C/X C/Q C/B Test proof.

In my data base I have the following:
1914 DWM 468 on right receiver C/X C/Q C/B test proof
1914 DWM 1426 on right receiver C/X C/Q C/B test proof

Your 1914 DWM has normal acceptance stamps and test proof on its right receiver. Nothing unusual or to be concerned about.

For my data base what is the serial number of your 1914 DWM?
Thanks
Jan

Pete Ebbink · 11-24-2006, 12:31 PM

German fraktur letters used by various DWM inspectors :

rlbrutke · 11-24-2006, 12:38 PM

Thanks a million guys! The serial number is 1028. The book that I have (currently at home and I'm at work) is Catalog of Lugers by Aarron ???

Thanks for the alphabet.

http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger_serial.jpg

Pete Ebbink · 11-24-2006, 12:51 PM

Lonnie,

Dwight Gruber did a good wirte-up about Davis' 2nd. book over on Jan Still's Gun Boards :

http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9327

Edward Tinker · 11-24-2006, 03:16 PM

I am moving this to New collectors area.

It is best to state what the question is in the title, instead of beating us to death with help, oh help me

(pulling your leg a bit)

Seriously, best to state, Need help on WW1 markings. It helps in visuals searches.

Ed

Garfield · 11-25-2006, 02:11 AM

Aaron Davis' "books" , IMHO, are not worth the paper that they are printed on. The reference was once offered free with a subscription to Gun List. One subscriber wrote that the only value it had was that it was free.

John Sabato · 11-26-2006, 09:32 PM

I concur with Garfield's opinion on Davis first book on Lugers... because of it's reputation, I haven't bothered to look at his second book.

11-24-2006, 12:03 PM	#1
rlbrutke User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Any Ideas ? Anybody...Anybody! Ok...I went a purchased a Luger book that looked like it had every proof stamp and inspection mark known to man. Except the one that's on this gun!!!! If anyone can help or advise, it would be greatly appreciated. This first of four, according to the book, should only be on the 1908 model...this is a model 1914 stamped military pistol. Why would it be on this model? The fourth seems to be a simple Test Fire Stamp. The second and third stamp....I haven't a clue. There is nothing in my book that even resembles these two stamps. I have drawn out the symbols as they do not show up well in an actual photo... I hope my pictionary skills are up to snuff. Thanks!

11-24-2006, 12:14 PM	#2
micmacman User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: West Virginia Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	the forth is a common Imperial German proof,pre Nazi era,shows up on weapons since the late 1800's drawing is kinda obscured to make out what the third is suppose to be,more than likely a simple inspection proof,they very from one to another and your book is more than likely simply giving an sample example,atleast this is true for rifles from the era __________________ NRA,give,and give often,,,they fight the good fight for all of us

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John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I concur with Garfield's opinion on Davis first book on Lugers... because of it's reputation, I haven't bothered to look at his second book. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

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11-24-2006, 12:26 PM	#3
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	rlbrutke You said "This first of four, according to the book" What book do you have? The markings roughly translate into C/X C/Q C/B Test proof. In my data base I have the following: 1914 DWM 468 on right receiver C/X C/Q C/B test proof 1914 DWM 1426 on right receiver C/X C/Q C/B test proof Your 1914 DWM has normal acceptance stamps and test proof on its right receiver. Nothing unusual or to be concerned about. For my data base what is the serial number of your 1914 DWM? Thanks Jan

11-24-2006, 12:31 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	German fraktur letters used by various DWM inspectors :

11-24-2006, 12:38 PM	#5
rlbrutke User Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Thanks a million guys! The serial number is 1028. The book that I have (currently at home and I'm at work) is Catalog of Lugers by Aarron ??? Thanks for the alphabet. http://forum.lugerforum.com/lfupload/luger_serial.jpg

11-24-2006, 12:51 PM	#6
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Lonnie, Dwight Gruber did a good wirte-up about Davis' 2nd. book over on Jan Still's Gun Boards : http://luger.gunboards.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=9327

11-24-2006, 03:16 PM	#7
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	I am moving this to New collectors area. It is best to state what the question is in the title, instead of beating us to death with help, oh help me (pulling your leg a bit) Seriously, best to state, Need help on WW1 markings. It helps in visuals searches. Ed

11-25-2006, 02:11 AM	#8
Garfield User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A little SE of Nome Posts: 239 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Aaron Davis' "books" , IMHO, are not worth the paper that they are printed on. The reference was once offered free with a subscription to Gun List. One subscriber wrote that the only value it had was that it was free.