Odd CZ 27

MarkC · 03-28-2004, 09:47 PM

I have started to collect CZ 27's, I find them interesting and inexpensive.

Here is a link to my collection.

http://www.p38guns.com/CZ27.htm

I have not posted a picture of this gun on my site yet. Any thoughts about the take down lever?

Mark

<a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/cz27noserial1_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/cz27noserial1_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a>

ADMIN: I thumbed it, just so it doesn't go off of many folks screens, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ed

kidvett · 03-28-2004, 11:39 PM

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

No serial number

High polish would indicate early production ?? Any Waffenampts ??

Interesting pistol indeed

MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

MarkC · 03-29-2004, 05:58 PM

Mark,

The gun has no WaA markings except on the barrel and the only proof is on the barrel as well. I have been told these guns may have been manufactured prior to the "U" guns or even assembled from parts stolen from the factory! I have seen several of the no serial number guns but this one is in the best condition I have seen for this variation. The gun appears to be fired because the slide rail's wear is consistant with the gun being used, but has obviously never been put in a holster.

The take down lever is made more like a watch part than a gun part. The cylinder has a small screw on the end protruding from the tube on a spring and the other end sealed with a screw that has been peened in place, as my photograph illustrates.

Mark

Ron Smith · 03-29-2004, 08:46 PM

Ya know it's kind of an afront, to be showing this junk on a prestigious forum like this one!

Hey! Mark , How Ya Doin' Bud??
So, that CZ turned out to be an odd one? Only you could have that kind of luck. Probably turn out to be worth a kabillion bucks!

Later, Ron

MarkC · 03-30-2004, 12:13 PM

Ron,

Thanks, if someone offered me half a kabillion I'd consider selling! ..... then again maybe not. I really like the CZ 27's and find them inexpenive to collect with many around in excellent condition. They are also fun to shoot, I bought a high polish that someone took a steel wool pad to for $100.00. I bought it because the grips were perfect and one of my early guns had a thumbnail piece of bakelite missing, now a real nice shooter.

My entire collection of CZ 27's is now posted at http://www.p38guns.com/CZ27.htm

Mark

Ron Smith · 03-30-2004, 04:54 PM

Mark,
Have you found out any more about this one?
Any clues as to why the take-down is different?

Now I'm gonna have to tear apart every CZ I run across, just to see if it's like that one.

Ron

MarkC · 03-30-2004, 10:49 PM

Ron,

I wish someone would write a book about these guns. Without a researcher who is dedicated to the CZ's anything is possible, including a skilled watchmaker who might have lost a takedown lever!

Mark

kidvett · 03-31-2004, 12:16 AM

Mark,

Your pistol is interesting, specificcally that ``made-up `` lever....I dont know much about those & agree with you that a good reference book would be practical. Only one I have is what I think a very common Variation

It shows a rough late War dull finish...

MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Lugerdoc · 03-31-2004, 11:07 AM

Mark, I do stock CZ pistol parts M22, 24 & 27 including take down levers, if you need one. Bob Berger's inexpensive paper back "know your Czechoslavian pistols" is a good introductory book and about the only one that I know of in English. TH

05-05-2004, 08:00 PM

Mark,
Thank you for posting your website, now I can fiqure out what I have.
Regards,
Hessian

fg42 · 05-05-2004, 08:14 PM

For some reason the take down lever reminds me of the take down pins on a Swiss Pe 57 or a AMT rifle.

PACKET · 05-05-2004, 11:47 PM

The CZ-27 is a very high quality pistole. I am amazed at the comments I have seen on this forum. I have had the pleasure of owning two of these pistoles. They shoot as well or better than any .32 cal pistole I have ever come across.

03-28-2004, 09:47 PM	#1
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 126 Times in 29 Posts	Odd CZ 27 I have started to collect CZ 27's, I find them interesting and inexpensive. Here is a link to my collection. http://www.p38guns.com/CZ27.htm I have not posted a picture of this gun on my site yet. Any thoughts about the take down lever? Mark <a href="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/cz27noserial1_copy1.jpg" target="_fullview"><img src="http://forums.lugerforum.com/lfupload/cz27noserial1_copy1.jpg" width="400" alt="Click for fullsize image" /></a> ADMIN: I thumbed it, just so it doesn't go off of many folks screens, <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ed

03-29-2004, 08:46 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ya know it's kind of an afront, to be showing this junk on a prestigious forum like this one! Hey! Mark , How Ya Doin' Bud?? So, that CZ turned out to be an odd one? Only you could have that kind of luck. Probably turn out to be worth a kabillion bucks! Later, Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-30-2004, 04:54 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Mark, Have you found out any more about this one? Any clues as to why the take-down is different? Now I'm gonna have to tear apart every CZ I run across, just to see if it's like that one. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

03-31-2004, 11:07 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Mark, I do stock CZ pistol parts M22, 24 & 27 including take down levers, if you need one. Bob Berger's inexpensive paper back "know your Czechoslavian pistols" is a good introductory book and about the only one that I know of in English. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

03-28-2004, 11:39 PM	#2
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	<img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> No serial number High polish would indicate early production ?? Any Waffenampts ?? Interesting pistol indeed MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

03-29-2004, 05:58 PM	#3
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 126 Times in 29 Posts	Mark, The gun has no WaA markings except on the barrel and the only proof is on the barrel as well. I have been told these guns may have been manufactured prior to the "U" guns or even assembled from parts stolen from the factory! I have seen several of the no serial number guns but this one is in the best condition I have seen for this variation. The gun appears to be fired because the slide rail's wear is consistant with the gun being used, but has obviously never been put in a holster. The take down lever is made more like a watch part than a gun part. The cylinder has a small screw on the end protruding from the tube on a spring and the other end sealed with a screw that has been peened in place, as my photograph illustrates. Mark

03-30-2004, 12:13 PM	#5
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 126 Times in 29 Posts	Ron, Thanks, if someone offered me half a kabillion I'd consider selling! ..... then again maybe not. I really like the CZ 27's and find them inexpenive to collect with many around in excellent condition. They are also fun to shoot, I bought a high polish that someone took a steel wool pad to for $100.00. I bought it because the grips were perfect and one of my early guns had a thumbnail piece of bakelite missing, now a real nice shooter. My entire collection of CZ 27's is now posted at http://www.p38guns.com/CZ27.htm Mark

03-30-2004, 10:49 PM	#7
MarkC User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 482 Thanks: 1 Thanked 126 Times in 29 Posts	Ron, I wish someone would write a book about these guns. Without a researcher who is dedicated to the CZ's anything is possible, including a skilled watchmaker who might have lost a takedown lever! Mark

03-31-2004, 12:16 AM	#8
kidvett User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 584 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Mark, Your pistol is interesting, specificcally that ``made-up `` lever....I dont know much about those & agree with you that a good reference book would be practical. Only one I have is what I think a very common Variation It shows a rough late War dull finish... MARK <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

05-05-2004, 08:00 PM	#10
Hessian Guest Posts: n/a	Mark, Thank you for posting your website, now I can fiqure out what I have. Regards, Hessian

05-05-2004, 08:14 PM	#11
fg42 User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 90 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	For some reason the take down lever reminds me of the take down pins on a Swiss Pe 57 or a AMT rifle.

05-05-2004, 11:47 PM	#12
PACKET User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: FL. Posts: 68 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	The CZ-27 is a very high quality pistole. I am amazed at the comments I have seen on this forum. I have had the pleasure of owning two of these pistoles. They shoot as well or better than any .32 cal pistole I have ever come across.