Underarm (Jackass) rigs for Luger?

HogLegJack · 02-11-2004, 05:53 PM

Are underarm shoulder holsters still made for Lugers? I am a CCW holder and as my Luger is a shooter I'd not mind having it as an occassional carry piece.My email is joly57@hotmail.com if you don't post a reply here.
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John D. · 02-11-2004, 06:00 PM

Hi HogLeg...!

You may want to contact Jerry B. (lugerholsterrepair) and ask him what he can do for you?? His craftsmanship is EXCELLENT, and I think he probably has some patterns around for different style shoulder holsters? As well - some folks posted a few years ago that a "tanker's shoulder" holster for a 1911 seemed to work - but I have no experience with those, unfortunately....

Best to you!

Herb · 02-11-2004, 06:46 PM

John, I have one of those and it works fine for the Luger. I think I picked it up at a surplus store or perhaps at a gun show for a reasonable price.

Pete Ebbink · 02-11-2004, 09:52 PM

Well...if one wants to carry a carbine in a shoulder rig, here is just the item...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=22701

I would probably chip a tooth trying to pull the gun out...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

John Sabato · 02-12-2004, 10:39 AM

Speaking of underarm 'jackass' type shoulder rigs... I have a question that I have been meaning to ask for a long time.

Back in the mid 60's there was a show on TV called "I SPY" with Robert Culp and Bill Cosby... you can still probably catch it once in while on TVLAND or Nickelodeon... Anyway, Robert Cult played an American espionage agent and he carried a Walther P-38 variant... perhaps with a shortened barrel in a shoulder rig that carried the gun butt forward and hanging down under his arm. I was never able to determine what kind of latch or mechanism kept this gun in the holster but I do know that on camera all he had to do was insert it and it stayed there... there was no fumbling with a strap to secure it... and as far as I could tell, there was nothing behind the gunbutt that held it in...

Does anyone in this crowd, especially our holster guru Jerry know anything about how that holster was constructed in such a way to make that gun available yet secure enough not to fall out while running? I have owned excellent revolver holsters that were worn under the arm virtually upside down but the gun is retained by elastic holding a leather pocket around the curve in the trigger guard... this approach won't work with a P-38 or Luger...

Any insight would be appreciated.

lugerholsterrepair · 02-12-2004, 04:14 PM

John, I's surprised at you! It's the Movies! Anything can happen...How does Gene Autry's six shooter hold 50 rounds? It's Movie Magic. Honestly, I don't know how they did it except to cut the scene where it fell out. Or he had one that was special and was glued in permanently untill the next scene required it's removal.

When I was a small child my Brother and I got into an argument over what TV show to watch, my Father discovered our Family discord and threw our Family TV out of a second story window onto the street. We never had another TV in the house the whole time I was growing up. So...I missed I Spy! Jerry Burney

John Sabato · 02-15-2004, 12:24 PM

Jerry,

I SPY was great comedy (Bill Cosby!) and intrigue in its time, but probably pretty corny by today's entertainment standards... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

LugerLizzie · 03-03-2004, 11:11 PM

This might make me sound like one, but here goes!! What is a "jackass" type rig or holster?

Edward Tinker · 03-03-2004, 11:23 PM

It is a maker of holsters, made in the USA

http://www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/...rComponent.asp

Ed

John Sabato · 03-04-2004, 10:39 AM

The "jackass" type rigs hold the weapon either parallel to the ground or slightly butt downward under one arm and there is usually a dual magazine pouch that hangs on the harness under the other arm that sort of balances out the carry. It makes tying the harness to your pants belt less necessary for most folks...

Sorry I don't have a photo to show you... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Edward Tinker · 03-04-2004, 10:55 AM

Hey John! I did, that is why I supplied the link el-dude-o!!

John Sabato · 03-04-2004, 01:27 PM

Ed, I meant a photo of a complete JA shoulder rig... your link is just a holster without straps... For someone who hasn't seen one before, I thought the description might help since I don't have a photo of a whole rig.

But I just found one on the site you mentioned... here is a direct link to a rig photo.

http://www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/...lderSystem.asp

LugerLizzie · 03-05-2004, 10:56 AM

John, Ed, or anyone. If you scroll down the link, you can't find this particular holster for a "Luger". I pretty much checked all the other holsters and can't find one made for a "Luger". Do you have to custom order it? Or does one of the listed holsters work with a luger.

John Sabato · 03-05-2004, 04:24 PM

The Luger does not really lend itself to butt foward underarm carry due to the large size of the rear top of the pistol where any kind of fastener would have to be for quick release by the shooter's thumb. If there is such a rig available, I am not aware of it.

If you find one, let us all know...

Edward Tinker · 03-05-2004, 04:31 PM

Sorry Kim, question was on what is a "Jackass" rig and I didn't mean to say that they had them for Lugers... <img border="0" alt="[oops]" title="" src="graemlins/oops.gif" />

Ed

LugerLizzie · 03-06-2004, 01:49 AM

Well I guess I'm trying to make orange juice from apples. What I'm trying to get is does anyone know of an after market shoulder holster for personal carry of a Luger. Leather would be nice but not necessary, the new holsters made of new space age type nylon materials would be acceptable too. Does anyone know where to get one?

John Sabato · 03-06-2004, 07:33 AM

I suggest you take your carry Luger down to a well stocked gunshop with holsters and find a standard 'barrel-down' version in the material of your choice and I think you will be surprised <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> to find that most shoulder holsters designed to carry a 4 inch revolver like a S&W Combat Masterpiece (Model 15) or Combat Magnum (Model 19) will work with your Luger because of the similarity of the frame and barrel profiles.

My preference is for an elastic closure that stretches as you pull out the gun, but velcro and mechanical snaps are your other choices... Just be sure to jump up and down a bunch to make sure your prize isn't going to fall out <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" />

I was alway partial to Bianchi and Safariland holsters, but it has been literally decades since I bought one, and to each his own. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" />

Hub · 03-06-2004, 08:55 AM

Just a word of causion on the underarm carrying of the Luger. Personally I would never carry one of these in the butt forward position, in fact I question carrying them in what is called condition (1) round in the chamber with the safety on.
NK

AGE · 03-06-2004, 11:55 PM

Hub,

I agree. The only safe carry seems to be with the chamber empty, but then working the toggle to load the chamber is pretty awkward.

However, even if you carried a Luger with a loaded chamber and safety on, the safety is very awkward and slow. It's probably better to carry something more modern.

02-11-2004, 05:53 PM	#1
HogLegJack User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Underarm (Jackass) rigs for Luger? Are underarm shoulder holsters still made for Lugers? I am a CCW holder and as my Luger is a shooter I'd not mind having it as an occassional carry piece.My email is joly57@hotmail.com if you don't post a reply here. This forum rocks!

02-11-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
Herb User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Utah, in the land of the Sleeping Rainbow Posts: 1,457 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	John, I have one of those and it works fine for the Luger. I think I picked it up at a surplus store or perhaps at a gun show for a reasonable price. __________________ Utah, where gun control means a steady trigger pull

02-12-2004, 10:39 AM	#5
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Speaking of underarm 'jackass' type shoulder rigs... I have a question that I have been meaning to ask for a long time. Back in the mid 60's there was a show on TV called "I SPY" with Robert Culp and Bill Cosby... you can still probably catch it once in while on TVLAND or Nickelodeon... Anyway, Robert Cult played an American espionage agent and he carried a Walther P-38 variant... perhaps with a shortened barrel in a shoulder rig that carried the gun butt forward and hanging down under his arm. I was never able to determine what kind of latch or mechanism kept this gun in the holster but I do know that on camera all he had to do was insert it and it stayed there... there was no fumbling with a strap to secure it... and as far as I could tell, there was nothing behind the gunbutt that held it in... Does anyone in this crowd, especially our holster guru Jerry know anything about how that holster was constructed in such a way to make that gun available yet secure enough not to fall out while running? I have owned excellent revolver holsters that were worn under the arm virtually upside down but the gun is retained by elastic holding a leather pocket around the curve in the trigger guard... this approach won't work with a P-38 or Luger... Any insight would be appreciated. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-12-2004, 04:14 PM	#6
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	John, I's surprised at you! It's the Movies! Anything can happen...How does Gene Autry's six shooter hold 50 rounds? It's Movie Magic. Honestly, I don't know how they did it except to cut the scene where it fell out. Or he had one that was special and was glued in permanently untill the next scene required it's removal. When I was a small child my Brother and I got into an argument over what TV show to watch, my Father discovered our Family discord and threw our Family TV out of a second story window onto the street. We never had another TV in the house the whole time I was growing up. So...I missed I Spy! Jerry Burney __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

02-15-2004, 12:24 PM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Jerry, I SPY was great comedy (Bill Cosby!) and intrigue in its time, but probably pretty corny by today's entertainment standards... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

02-11-2004, 06:00 PM	#2
John D. Administrator & Site Owner LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A Little NE of Somewhere... Posts: 2,651 Thanks: 477 Thanked 515 Times in 128 Posts	Hi HogLeg...! You may want to contact Jerry B. (lugerholsterrepair) and ask him what he can do for you?? His craftsmanship is EXCELLENT, and I think he probably has some patterns around for different style shoulder holsters? As well - some folks posted a few years ago that a "tanker's shoulder" holster for a 1911 seemed to work - but I have no experience with those, unfortunately.... Best to you!

02-11-2004, 09:52 PM	#4
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Well...if one wants to carry a carbine in a shoulder rig, here is just the item... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...category=22701 I would probably chip a tooth trying to pull the gun out... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

03-03-2004, 11:11 PM	#8
LugerLizzie User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calif. Coast Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	This might make me sound like one, but here goes!! What is a "jackass" type rig or holster?

03-03-2004, 11:23 PM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	It is a maker of holsters, made in the USA http://www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/...rComponent.asp Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-04-2004, 10:39 AM	#10
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The "jackass" type rigs hold the weapon either parallel to the ground or slightly butt downward under one arm and there is usually a dual magazine pouch that hangs on the harness under the other arm that sort of balances out the carry. It makes tying the harness to your pants belt less necessary for most folks... Sorry I don't have a photo to show you... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-04-2004, 10:55 AM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Hey John! I did, that is why I supplied the link el-dude-o!! __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-04-2004, 01:27 PM	#12
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	Ed, I meant a photo of a complete JA shoulder rig... your link is just a holster without straps... For someone who hasn't seen one before, I thought the description might help since I don't have a photo of a whole rig. But I just found one on the site you mentioned... here is a direct link to a rig photo. http://www.gunaccessories.com/Galco/...lderSystem.asp __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-05-2004, 10:56 AM	#13
LugerLizzie User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calif. Coast Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	John, Ed, or anyone. If you scroll down the link, you can't find this particular holster for a "Luger". I pretty much checked all the other holsters and can't find one made for a "Luger". Do you have to custom order it? Or does one of the listed holsters work with a luger.

03-05-2004, 04:24 PM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	The Luger does not really lend itself to butt foward underarm carry due to the large size of the rear top of the pistol where any kind of fastener would have to be for quick release by the shooter's thumb. If there is such a rig available, I am not aware of it. If you find one, let us all know... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-05-2004, 04:31 PM	#15
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,966 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,595 Times in 2,116 Posts	Sorry Kim, question was on what is a "Jackass" rig and I didn't mean to say that they had them for Lugers... <img border="0" alt="[oops]" title="" src="graemlins/oops.gif" /> Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

03-06-2004, 01:49 AM	#16
LugerLizzie User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Calif. Coast Posts: 46 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Well I guess I'm trying to make orange juice from apples. What I'm trying to get is does anyone know of an after market shoulder holster for personal carry of a Luger. Leather would be nice but not necessary, the new holsters made of new space age type nylon materials would be acceptable too. Does anyone know where to get one?

03-06-2004, 07:33 AM	#17
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	I suggest you take your carry Luger down to a well stocked gunshop with holsters and find a standard 'barrel-down' version in the material of your choice and I think you will be surprised <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> to find that most shoulder holsters designed to carry a 4 inch revolver like a S&W Combat Masterpiece (Model 15) or Combat Magnum (Model 19) will work with your Luger because of the similarity of the frame and barrel profiles. My preference is for an elastic closure that stretches as you pull out the gun, but velcro and mechanical snaps are your other choices... Just be sure to jump up and down a bunch to make sure your prize isn't going to fall out <img border="0" alt="[crying]" title="" src="graemlins/crying.gif" /> I was alway partial to Bianchi and Safariland holsters, but it has been literally decades since I bought one, and to each his own. <img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" /> __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

03-06-2004, 08:55 AM	#18
Hub User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Decatur, IN Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Just a word of causion on the underarm carrying of the Luger. Personally I would never carry one of these in the butt forward position, in fact I question carrying them in what is called condition (1) round in the chamber with the safety on. NK

03-06-2004, 11:55 PM	#19
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Hub, I agree. The only safe carry seems to be with the chamber empty, but then working the toggle to load the chamber is pretty awkward. However, even if you carried a Luger with a loaded chamber and safety on, the safety is very awkward and slow. It's probably better to carry something more modern. __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member