Cleaning Rod Question...

Pete Ebbink · 09-11-2003, 04:11 PM

Just wondering if original & authentic cleaning rods for LP-08's should have their wooden "beer barrel drum" handles turn/swivel on the metal rods or not ? Same question for the shorter version that was used with 6" Navy guns...

If the handle does not swivel, does this necessarily means the tool is a "repro" or were a variation of tools made/issued...?

Appreciate your help & advice...

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

LU1900 · 09-12-2003, 10:26 AM

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Pete Ebbink · 09-12-2003, 11:32 AM

Hello Pat,

Thanks for helping me out. In Bender's larger book, there are some good photos on pages 297-302 that do seem to show metal ferruls through which the rod is inserted and this allows the swiveling action...

I have also posted, below, the nice schematic diagram which shows the detailed design of an LP-08 cleaning rod. This is from page 227 on E. Bender's book, "Luger Hosters & Accessories From The 20th. Century".

If any LF members would like a high-resolution copy of this drawing, I will post one in the Member's Gallery....

Regards,

Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

Vlim · 09-12-2003, 01:29 PM

Nice info,

I've got a 'swiveling' one with a slightly smaller barrel (2 rings on each side) with a rodlength that matches the LP08 rod length.

Posted a pic of it some months ago.

mauro · 09-13-2003, 11:15 AM

Two pictures extracted from my book (page 54). They describe the different cleaning rod configuration. The first model has both the bottom and the handle ring made in tinplate to prevent damage to the bore while cleaning. In the last production the tinplate was eliminated. There is also an intermediate model where only the bottom was manufactured using the tinplate.
Ciao
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Cleaningrod.jpg
http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Cleaningrod1.jpg

Big Norm · 09-15-2003, 09:47 PM

I don't know about anyone else but I don't think that I would want to stick one of these cleaning rods down the barrel of one of my artilleries. It seems like it would badly scratch the barrels bore. Maybe I am missing something about applying a cloth or something.

Big Norm

Vlim · 09-16-2003, 04:29 PM

Hmm,

Both are different from mine....

mauro · 09-20-2003, 04:33 PM

Hello,
sorry but I have translated the Italian word "ottone" with tinplate instead of the correct term Ã¢??brassÃ¢?Â. Please replace tinplate with brass in my previous descritpion.
Ciao

09-11-2003, 04:11 PM	#1
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Cleaning Rod Question... Just wondering if original & authentic cleaning rods for LP-08's should have their wooden "beer barrel drum" handles turn/swivel on the metal rods or not ? Same question for the shorter version that was used with 6" Navy guns... If the handle does not swivel, does this necessarily means the tool is a "repro" or were a variation of tools made/issued...? Appreciate your help & advice... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-12-2003, 10:26 AM	#2
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09-13-2003, 11:15 AM	#5
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Two pictures extracted from my book (page 54). They describe the different cleaning rod configuration. The first model has both the bottom and the handle ring made in tinplate to prevent damage to the bore while cleaning. In the last production the tinplate was eliminated. There is also an intermediate model where only the bottom was manufactured using the tinplate. Ciao http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Cleaningrod.jpg http://boards.rennlist.com/lfupload/Cleaningrod1.jpg __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

09-20-2003, 04:33 PM	#8
mauro FIREARM HISTORIAN AND AUT Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 1,535 Thanks: 106 Thanked 350 Times in 129 Posts	Hello, sorry but I have translated the Italian word "ottone" with tinplate instead of the correct term Ã¢??brassÃ¢?Â. Please replace tinplate with brass in my previous descritpion. Ciao __________________ Mauro Baudino - www.lugerlp08.com www.paul-mauser-archive.com Mauser Company and Firearm Historian - Mauser Parabellum Certification Service.

09-12-2003, 11:32 AM	#3
Pete Ebbink User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The USA Posts: 5,919 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Hello Pat, Thanks for helping me out. In Bender's larger book, there are some good photos on pages 297-302 that do seem to show metal ferruls through which the rod is inserted and this allows the swiveling action... I have also posted, below, the nice schematic diagram which shows the detailed design of an LP-08 cleaning rod. This is from page 227 on E. Bender's book, "Luger Hosters & Accessories From The 20th. Century". If any LF members would like a high-resolution copy of this drawing, I will post one in the Member's Gallery.... Regards, Pete... <img border="0" alt="[typing]" title="" src="graemlins/yltype.gif" />

09-12-2003, 01:29 PM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Nice info, I've got a 'swiveling' one with a slightly smaller barrel (2 rings on each side) with a rodlength that matches the LP08 rod length. Posted a pic of it some months ago.

09-15-2003, 09:47 PM	#6
Big Norm RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 1,864 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 5 Posts	I don't know about anyone else but I don't think that I would want to stick one of these cleaning rods down the barrel of one of my artilleries. It seems like it would badly scratch the barrels bore. Maybe I am missing something about applying a cloth or something. Big Norm

09-16-2003, 04:29 PM	#7
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Hmm, Both are different from mine....