short question , maybe a long answer ?

John1125 · 02-22-2017, 07:38 AM

Can someone explain to me what models the safety comes up to block the sear from the front ?

In other words it angles to the back when most angle up toward the front . I have googled the images and is it just on models with a grip safety or is there others ?

I know this may be not be a simple answer and it would be great to have a picture .

Thanks for your help guys ,

Kirk

Vlim · 02-22-2017, 07:51 AM

The grip safety models. There, the blocking part is actually part of the grip safety.

On the models without grip safety, a small safety bar is installed.

An exception is the post war Mauser Parabellum actually has a similar construction on the grip safety and the non-grip safety models, they just cut away a large part of the grip safety, but did not revert to the small safety bar of the original models.

Norme · 02-22-2017, 08:51 AM

Here you go Kirk, as you suggested, the sear block slopes backwards on grip safety models, forwards on those without grip safety.
Regards, Norm

Vlim · 02-22-2017, 09:06 AM

Here are the guts of a Mauser Parabellum.

John1125 · 02-22-2017, 09:09 AM

So does the lever on a grip safety model just prevent you from squeezing the grip to disengage the safety? Thanks for the pics, maybe a pic of a grip safety model less the left side grip panel.

Kirk

Vlim · 02-22-2017, 09:21 AM

Yes, that is correct. The lever just blocks the grip safety, which in turn blocks the sear.

spacecoast · 02-22-2017, 09:41 AM

I just discovered that the sear bar on a Mauser parabellum is NOT compatible with the safety bar on a P.08. The upper will fit the gun, you just won't be able to engage the safety.

DonVoigt · 02-22-2017, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacecoast

I just discovered that the sear bar on a Mauser parabellum is NOT compatible with the safety bar on a P.08. The upper will fit the gun, you just won't be able to engage the safety.

Correct, but you can change the sear bar to the correct style if you
wish.

And there are relieved and non relieved sear bars of each style.

John1125 · 02-22-2017, 06:37 PM

so a grip safety model would have a spring that would return the gun to safe when it was not held , and where does that spring reside on the gun?

I can't seem to get an exploded view of those models to come up when I google them , sorry for my ignorance once you get something in your mind its hard to get it out

Kirk

kurusu · 02-23-2017, 02:57 AM

Part #25

John1125 · 02-23-2017, 06:56 AM

Thank you guys for your help!

Kirk

ithacaartist · 02-23-2017, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John1125

so a grip safety model would have a spring that would return the gun to safe when it was not held , and where does that spring reside on the gun? Kirk

Part #25!

02-22-2017, 07:38 AM	#1
John1125 User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	short question , maybe a long answer ? Can someone explain to me what models the safety comes up to block the sear from the front ? In other words it angles to the back when most angle up toward the front . I have googled the images and is it just on models with a grip safety or is there others ? I know this may be not be a simple answer and it would be great to have a picture . Thanks for your help guys , Kirk

02-22-2017, 08:51 AM	#3
Norme Always A Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,417 Thanks: 226 Thanked 2,607 Times in 933 Posts	Here you go Kirk, as you suggested, the sear block slopes backwards on grip safety models, forwards on those without grip safety. Regards, Norm Attached Thumbnails

02-22-2017, 09:06 AM	#4
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Here are the guts of a Mauser Parabellum. Attached Images

02-22-2017, 09:41 AM	#7
spacecoast User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL and PA Posts: 332 Thanks: 276 Thanked 243 Times in 109 Posts	I just discovered that the sear bar on a Mauser parabellum is NOT compatible with the safety bar on a P.08. The upper will fit the gun, you just won't be able to engage the safety. __________________ My avatars are the Bulgarian word for "Fire", as seen on my 1900, 1906 and 1908 Bulgarian Contract DWM Lugers. Looking for a DWM Commercial side plate #95

02-23-2017, 02:57 AM	#10
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Part #25 Attached Thumbnails

02-22-2017, 07:51 AM	#2
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	The grip safety models. There, the blocking part is actually part of the grip safety. On the models without grip safety, a small safety bar is installed. An exception is the post war Mauser Parabellum actually has a similar construction on the grip safety and the non-grip safety models, they just cut away a large part of the grip safety, but did not revert to the small safety bar of the original models.

02-22-2017, 09:09 AM	#5
John1125 User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	So does the lever on a grip safety model just prevent you from squeezing the grip to disengage the safety? Thanks for the pics, maybe a pic of a grip safety model less the left side grip panel. Kirk

02-22-2017, 09:21 AM	#6
Vlim Moderator Lifetime LugerForum Patron Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Europe Posts: 5,053 Thanks: 1,036 Thanked 3,990 Times in 1,205 Posts	Yes, that is correct. The lever just blocks the grip safety, which in turn blocks the sear.

02-22-2017, 06:37 PM	#9
John1125 User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	so a grip safety model would have a spring that would return the gun to safe when it was not held , and where does that spring reside on the gun? I can't seem to get an exploded view of those models to come up when I google them , sorry for my ignorance once you get something in your mind its hard to get it out Kirk

02-23-2017, 06:56 AM	#11
John1125 User Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 37 Thanks: 3 Thanked 30 Times in 9 Posts	Thank you guys for your help! Kirk