New user, new Luger

cda_berbaro · 11-05-2014, 10:57 AM

Hi, i'm a new user and i'm writing from Italy.
You would excuse my bad english.
I would to buy a luger that according to seller it's all original of 1939.
I just have see that the barrel have no marking.
It's a good gun? What could be a real value?
Many thanks to everyone, photos attached.

mrerick · 11-05-2014, 11:47 AM

There should be a WaffenAmt, serial number numeric digits, barrel measurement and proof stamp on the barrel.

Look carefully to see if it is an armorer's replacement barrel. Also look to see the condition of the witness mark.

I would not pay much more than shooter prices for this one.

Marc

alanint · 11-05-2014, 11:52 AM

Certainly not the original barrel.

As Italy does not allow 9mm, it is probably the related caliber that is allowed.

cda_berbaro · 11-05-2014, 12:38 PM

Many thanks.
The caliber is 7,65 para.
The barrel has no marking.
How much money i would to pay for it?

DavidJayUden · 11-05-2014, 01:15 PM

In the USA this gun should sell for maybe $700-$850, as we find 7.65 to be an expensive round to shoot, AND it is a mismatched gun.
I can't say what it will sell for in Italy.
If it was matching and original barrel in 9mm, probably closer to $1000 to $1150 here.
Keep us posted.
david

cda_berbaro · 11-05-2014, 01:32 PM

ok; but what do you mean "mismatched gun"

alanint · 11-05-2014, 01:35 PM

Since the barrel is not original to the gun and does not have a matching, (same) serial number, it is considered a "mismatched" gun, which places it outside the interest of most collectors.

Forum member Sergio (Screen name = luger.parabellum ), who also lives in Italy, may be able to give you a better, local valuation of the pistol in question.

Sergio Natali · 11-06-2014, 03:02 AM

Thanks Doug

The gun shuld be checked properly, from what we can imagine from the pictures it is a nice gun, but has got a new barrel, it's probably a honest shooter, but of very little interest for a collector.
A gun like that with a reputable gushop would cost about Euro 1,000.00/1,100.00 from a private owner the price should be a bit lower.

imho

Sergio

cda_berbaro · 11-06-2014, 03:50 AM

Grazie Sergio, sono di Marsala.

11-05-2014, 10:57 AM	#1
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	New user, new Luger Hi, i'm a new user and i'm writing from Italy. You would excuse my bad english. I would to buy a luger that according to seller it's all original of 1939. I just have see that the barrel have no marking. It's a good gun? What could be a real value? Many thanks to everyone, photos attached. Attached Thumbnails

11-05-2014, 11:47 AM	#2
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,919 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	There should be a WaffenAmt, serial number numeric digits, barrel measurement and proof stamp on the barrel. Look carefully to see if it is an armorer's replacement barrel. Also look to see the condition of the witness mark. I would not pay much more than shooter prices for this one. Marc __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

11-06-2014, 03:02 AM	#8
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	Thanks Doug The gun shuld be checked properly, from what we can imagine from the pictures it is a nice gun, but has got a new barrel, it's probably a honest shooter, but of very little interest for a collector. A gun like that with a reputable gushop would cost about Euro 1,000.00/1,100.00 from a private owner the price should be a bit lower. imho Sergio __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

11-05-2014, 11:52 AM	#3
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Certainly not the original barrel. As Italy does not allow 9mm, it is probably the related caliber that is allowed.

11-05-2014, 12:38 PM	#4
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Many thanks. The caliber is 7,65 para. The barrel has no marking. How much money i would to pay for it?

11-05-2014, 01:15 PM	#5
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	In the USA this gun should sell for maybe $700-$850, as we find 7.65 to be an expensive round to shoot, AND it is a mismatched gun. I can't say what it will sell for in Italy. If it was matching and original barrel in 9mm, probably closer to $1000 to $1150 here. Keep us posted. david

11-05-2014, 01:32 PM	#6
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok; but what do you mean "mismatched gun"

11-05-2014, 01:35 PM	#7
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Since the barrel is not original to the gun and does not have a matching, (same) serial number, it is considered a "mismatched" gun, which places it outside the interest of most collectors. Forum member Sergio (Screen name = luger.parabellum ), who also lives in Italy, may be able to give you a better, local valuation of the pistol in question.

11-06-2014, 03:50 AM	#9
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Grazie Sergio, sono di Marsala.