General Patton

John Sabato · 09-28-2010, 09:28 AM

Often seen with a variety of guns on his hip, can anyone identify the gun on General Patton's hip in this photo?

Even under magnification, I can't discern which gun this is...

alanint · 09-28-2010, 10:20 AM

Only one gun looked like that back in the late 1930's....The P-35 Browning High Power...

WG dog · 09-28-2010, 11:22 AM

Can't see what it is. Colt 1908?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mo...ket_Hammerless

newluger · 09-28-2010, 11:32 AM

Didn't Patton carry a revolver? However, at 150%, it does resemble an automatic.

Newluger

cirelaw · 09-28-2010, 11:32 AM

And Yours when He was in the field. He had multable beauties. Probobly one for each day of the month.

BogeyB · 09-28-2010, 09:04 PM

I know when Patton went on desert maneuvers, he carried a Colt Woodsman to shoot snakes.

Mike

snipershot1944 · 09-28-2010, 09:15 PM

His personal M1 Garand is in the VMI museum.

WG dog · 09-29-2010, 07:48 AM

Maybe his Remington .380?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_51

alanint · 09-29-2010, 08:58 AM

The butt is too large and too wide to be anything smaller than a 9mm. Patton liked to own the latest gun toys. He was among the first to obtain a .357 Magnum, so for him to purchase the then new, (and the first) wonder 9mm is not too far fetched.

I still say Browning High Power

Patronen · 09-29-2010, 09:23 AM

Gentleman- I have been here awhile lurking and learning from you fellow collectors and this is my first post here and would like to add my 2 cents of opinion on the photo. Part of the General's pistol grip tends to be in the shadows and in many ways appears to give off the look of a highpower grip. However I do not make out an external hammer on the pistol in the photogragh though the angle of the photo and the General's jacket maybe a hiding factor. All that said my guess is a Remington pistol.-Dave

John Sabato · 09-29-2010, 10:13 AM

Okay, I just discovered the larger version of the photo in question, and it exposes more of the holster. It appears from this photo that the gun is in fact a Colt woodsman apparently with some custom grips...

The earlier version of the photo made it appear that the gun was much smaller...

Here is the whole photo:

saab-bob · 09-29-2010, 11:41 AM

Hello
Its great how all the intelligent gents on this forum can piece together information from a photo.
That picture ,IMHO ,was taken at the Desert Tank Training center near Amboy CA. Its in the middle of the Mojave Desert.
He is standing in front of a early M3 Stuart AKA Honey tank.

There are lots of snakes to shoot out there!

Bob

Jack Lawman · 09-29-2010, 03:39 PM

Possibly an early Match Target with elephant ear grips?

Ron Wood · 09-29-2010, 05:59 PM

Jack,
That was my guess.

azlaw · 09-30-2010, 01:01 AM

Looks like an Audley holster - common for an upscale outdoorsman at the time.

H

BogeyB · 10-02-2010, 09:21 PM

An Audley holster would have had a strip of leather stiched under the trigger cut out. Maybe a Heiser??

Mike

Ron Wood · 10-02-2010, 10:30 PM

Definitely not an Audley. Gen Patton had some of his holsters made by El Paso Saddlery, but I don’t think the pattern is correct for one of those. Heiser is a good probability.

09-28-2010, 09:28 AM	#1
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	General Patton Often seen with a variety of guns on his hip, can anyone identify the gun on General Patton's hip in this photo? Even under magnification, I can't discern which gun this is... Attached Images __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-28-2010, 11:32 AM	#5
cirelaw Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: PORT ST LUCIE, FLORIDA Posts: 12,216 Thanks: 6,209 Thanked 4,138 Times in 2,176 Posts	I think He used these while in dress uniform And Yours when He was in the field. He had multable beauties. Probobly one for each day of the month. Attached Images

09-28-2010, 09:04 PM	#6
BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 422 Thanks: 0 Thanked 227 Times in 99 Posts	I know when Patton went on desert maneuvers, he carried a Colt Woodsman to shoot snakes. Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

09-29-2010, 10:13 AM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,308 Times in 1,098 Posts	MORE Photo! Okay, I just discovered the larger version of the photo in question, and it exposes more of the holster. It appears from this photo that the gun is in fact a Colt woodsman apparently with some custom grips... The earlier version of the photo made it appear that the gun was much smaller... Here is the whole photo: Attached Thumbnails __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

09-29-2010, 11:41 AM	#12
saab-bob User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: So Cal Posts: 459 Thanks: 774 Thanked 143 Times in 87 Posts	Hello Its great how all the intelligent gents on this forum can piece together information from a photo. That picture ,IMHO ,was taken at the Desert Tank Training center near Amboy CA. Its in the middle of the Mojave Desert. He is standing in front of a early M3 Stuart AKA Honey tank. There are lots of snakes to shoot out there! Bob __________________ "I think,therefore I own guns"

09-28-2010, 10:20 AM	#2
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Only one gun looked like that back in the late 1930's....The P-35 Browning High Power...

09-28-2010, 11:22 AM	#3
WG dog Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 142 Thanks: 1,282 Thanked 37 Times in 24 Posts	Can't see what it is. Colt 1908? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Mo...ket_Hammerless

09-28-2010, 11:32 AM	#4
newluger User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Franklin Tennessee Posts: 119 Thanks: 22 Thanked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Didn't Patton carry a revolver? However, at 150%, it does resemble an automatic. Newluger

09-28-2010, 09:15 PM	#7
snipershot1944 User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Virginia, part of the occupied Confederacy Posts: 300 Thanks: 15 Thanked 33 Times in 24 Posts	His personal M1 Garand is in the VMI museum.

09-29-2010, 07:48 AM	#8
WG dog Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 142 Thanks: 1,282 Thanked 37 Times in 24 Posts	Maybe his Remington .380? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_51

09-29-2010, 08:58 AM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	The butt is too large and too wide to be anything smaller than a 9mm. Patton liked to own the latest gun toys. He was among the first to obtain a .357 Magnum, so for him to purchase the then new, (and the first) wonder 9mm is not too far fetched. I still say Browning High Power

09-29-2010, 09:23 AM	#10
Patronen User Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 312 Thanks: 335 Thanked 93 Times in 70 Posts	Gentleman- I have been here awhile lurking and learning from you fellow collectors and this is my first post here and would like to add my 2 cents of opinion on the photo. Part of the General's pistol grip tends to be in the shadows and in many ways appears to give off the look of a highpower grip. However I do not make out an external hammer on the pistol in the photogragh though the angle of the photo and the General's jacket maybe a hiding factor. All that said my guess is a Remington pistol.-Dave

09-29-2010, 03:39 PM	#13
Jack Lawman User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Near NYC Posts: 428 Thanks: 30 Thanked 64 Times in 37 Posts	Possibly an early Match Target with elephant ear grips? Attached Thumbnails __________________ Why do you guys hate black circles so much?

09-29-2010, 05:59 PM	#14
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Jack, That was my guess. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

09-30-2010, 01:01 AM	#15
azlaw User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 207 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Looks like an Audley holster - common for an upscale outdoorsman at the time. H

10-02-2010, 09:21 PM	#16
BogeyB Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Mc Donough, GA. Posts: 422 Thanks: 0 Thanked 227 Times in 99 Posts	An Audley holster would have had a strip of leather stiched under the trigger cut out. Maybe a Heiser?? Mike __________________ MAGA Always!! NRA Benifactor, GCA

10-02-2010, 10:30 PM	#17
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,040 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,257 Times in 1,724 Posts	Definitely not an Audley. Gen Patton had some of his holsters made by El Paso Saddlery, but I don’t think the pattern is correct for one of those. Heiser is a good probability. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction