Extractor question

BILL · 05-29-2001, 07:06 PM

One question that has been on my mind for awhile is the correct finish for the extractor. How was a Luger extractor finished when it left the factory? I have seen photos, taken from the top of the pistol, showing it blued, strawed, in the white, and reddish brown. This was also a question asked in the latest quiz. The correct answer in the quiz is not blued or strawed. Just want to get some clarification on this. Bill

Frank · 05-29-2001, 08:42 PM

Bill, my Military Mausers have blued extractors. I have some armorers extractors that are also blued. I think the plum colored extractors were an anomaly of the bluing process. The only strawed extractors that I have seen are Ted's.

BILL · 05-29-2001, 09:19 PM

Frank, your experience parallels mine exactly. I don't know if you read question #9 on Lugerforum Quiz #3 but it asks for the three outside visible metal parts which are neither blued nor strawed. Am I reading this incorrectly or what? The answer is: Grip screws, Toggle Pins, and Extractor. Am I reading this wrong?

Hugh · 05-29-2001, 10:59 PM

I think they were heat treated to a higher temp than the strawed parts, to come out a brighter blue than the "blued" parts. Although the parts on the later Mauser guns that were salt blued appear to be salt blued also.

BILL · 05-30-2001, 12:55 AM

In my limited experience, what I think I have seen is fire-blued ejectors, sear bar springs, front connecting pins, rear connecting pins, and grip screws. This, of course, would apply primarily to pre-WWII Lugers (I told you my experience was limited..I haven't graduated to the 'newer' Lugers yet..still living in the 1906-1929 era)

Johnny Peppers · 05-30-2001, 08:28 AM

I also puzzled over this question as the extractors have been both blued and strawed.

John Sabato · 05-30-2001, 10:17 AM

Thor · 05-30-2001, 11:35 AM

Leaf Springs are fire blued, that would be hold open spring, mag release spring, and sear spring. The sear spring and sometimes the mag release are visable. I suppose they are blued on later models, so NEVER MIND!

BILL · 05-30-2001, 11:50 AM

Ted, do to the nature of your work, the leaf spring is probably more visible to you than most of us. When you do a total reconstruction to original condition, what parts do you fire-blue?

Thor · 05-30-2001, 12:16 PM

Those items you mentioned if pre 1937, leaf springs, roll pins, grip screws! Thor

05-29-2001, 07:06 PM	#1
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Extractor question One question that has been on my mind for awhile is the correct finish for the extractor. How was a Luger extractor finished when it left the factory? I have seen photos, taken from the top of the pistol, showing it blued, strawed, in the white, and reddish brown. This was also a question asked in the latest quiz. The correct answer in the quiz is not blued or strawed. Just want to get some clarification on this. Bill

05-29-2001, 08:42 PM	#2
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 165 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Extractor question Bill, my Military Mausers have blued extractors. I have some armorers extractors that are also blued. I think the plum colored extractors were an anomaly of the bluing process. The only strawed extractors that I have seen are Ted's.

05-29-2001, 10:59 PM	#4
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	Re: Extractor question I think they were heat treated to a higher temp than the strawed parts, to come out a brighter blue than the "blued" parts. Although the parts on the later Mauser guns that were salt blued appear to be salt blued also.

05-30-2001, 12:55 AM	#5
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Extractor question In my limited experience, what I think I have seen is fire-blued ejectors, sear bar springs, front connecting pins, rear connecting pins, and grip screws. This, of course, would apply primarily to pre-WWII Lugers (I told you my experience was limited..I haven't graduated to the 'newer' Lugers yet..still living in the 1906-1929 era)

05-30-2001, 08:28 AM	#6
Johnny Peppers User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Calion, Arkansas Posts: 1,042 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Extractor question I also puzzled over this question as the extractors have been both blued and strawed.

05-29-2001, 09:19 PM	#3
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Extractor question Frank, your experience parallels mine exactly. I don't know if you read question #9 on Lugerforum Quiz #3 but it asks for the three outside visible metal parts which are neither blued nor strawed. Am I reading this incorrectly or what? The answer is: Grip screws, Toggle Pins, and Extractor. Am I reading this wrong?

05-30-2001, 10:17 AM	#7
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,156 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,309 Times in 1,098 Posts	PATRICK! another Quiz Question requires clarification Please. (EOM)

05-30-2001, 11:35 AM	#8
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 971 Times in 277 Posts	Re: Extractor question Leaf Springs are fire blued, that would be hold open spring, mag release spring, and sear spring. The sear spring and sometimes the mag release are visable. I suppose they are blued on later models, so NEVER MIND!

05-30-2001, 11:50 AM	#9
BILL User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Western Washington Posts: 826 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Extractor question(Ted) Ted, do to the nature of your work, the leaf spring is probably more visible to you than most of us. When you do a total reconstruction to original condition, what parts do you fire-blue?

05-30-2001, 12:16 PM	#10
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 971 Times in 277 Posts	Re: Extractor question(Ted) Those items you mentioned if pre 1937, leaf springs, roll pins, grip screws! Thor