1941 Luger with 42 code opinions

garandguy56 · 02-07-2014, 10:58 PM

Hi all,

Looking to buy this 41/42 Luger w/ matching mag. It looks completely unmessed by the pictures but let me know what you all think!

garandguy56 · 02-07-2014, 10:59 PM

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DavidJayUden · 02-07-2014, 11:15 PM

Nothing really jumps out at me but I'd like to see a better photo of the mag bottom. I just can't see the details.
Also, the bluing is exceptionally dark, even and shows absolutely no wear on the high spots, the side plate, etc. I'm not saying that it can't be genuine, but I'd want to look at it really closely because you're probably paying a premium for condition.
Frequently these guns show different tones of bluing, some purplish, etc.
dju

drbuster · 02-07-2014, 11:16 PM

Exquisite 42-41 Mauser luger! The "n" suffix is proper as well. The only thing that would make this even rarer and more desirable is the lack of the P.08 marking. This is about as nice as they get.

garandguy56 · 02-07-2014, 11:17 PM

I've asked for a few more pictures so as soon as they come in I'll post. I have a 38 Luger in similar condition but it has muzzle wear and on the high points of the plate.

Frank · 02-08-2014, 07:37 AM

It looks too pretty to me! I might think it's been restored. If not it's a nice collectable. Good Luck!

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 09:44 AM

Magazine bottom

stressed · 02-08-2014, 11:43 AM

Do you guys think it's been reblued? Looks almost too nice.

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 11:56 AM

This is my 1938 Luger. Finish is great and similar to the 41 here. Bluing looks comparable.

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 12:12 PM

Just found out this was a former Legacy Collectables piece:

http://www.legacy-collectibles.com/m...near-mint-1505

If they say it's good, it must be

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 12:03 PM

I think the picture of the trigger guard really shows the crispness of the letters. If it was re-blued I think it would be hard to achieve that unless the whole thing was completely stripped.

DavidJayUden · 02-08-2014, 12:53 PM

The mag. bottom looks good.
I still think that the finish looks like a re-blue, HOWEVER, if Legacy has had their hands on it and says it is original, then who am I to question it after seeing a couple of photos?
An extremely nice gun. Let us know if you land it.
dju

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 12:54 PM

Thanks all! The seller says that one grip is numbered "84" but the other isn't. Any thoughts on this?

Sergio Natali · 02-08-2014, 01:01 PM

I cannot swear that it wasn't reblued, but in any case it's a gorgeous gun. Congratulations indeed!

wlyon · 02-08-2014, 02:32 PM

It looks good, maybe to good. Remember Legacy is in the business of selling. If not restored a very nice ,good as they get luger. I like a little more wear on the muzzle and sideplate. Would need a hands on by someone who knows more than me. Good luck. Bill

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 03:19 PM

Thanks bill. What about the grip numbers? That's the only thing that is holding me up.

tharpo · 02-08-2014, 03:53 PM

Correct grips for this gun would be numbered 05 not 84.

DavidJayUden · 02-08-2014, 04:50 PM

It seems to me that the numbering of wooden grips in the 1941 and 1942 years was a bit dicey. You see otherwise very nice guns with either both blank or one blank grip panel. So much so that I don't know if that should be a deal breaker. Not to say you, as the buyer, can't insist on a discount...
It would be interesting to know the numbers stamped on the INSIDE of the side plate too.
dju

garandguy56 · 02-08-2014, 05:13 PM

Here's a side by side comparison of the same gun: one from the Legacy website and one the seller has listed. Legacy says that they are waffen marked but no mention of the numbers, while the seller says it's marked "84" and then other other has nothing. Not sure what the case is but these grips look completely different. Seller says he never took them apart but who knows...

wlyon · 02-08-2014, 05:13 PM

I too would like to know the inside sideplate number. The grips would not bother me at all. That late some were numbered and some not. Bill

02-07-2014, 10:58 PM	#1
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	1941 Luger with 42 code opinions Hi all, Looking to buy this 41/42 Luger w/ matching mag. It looks completely unmessed by the pictures but let me know what you all think! Attached Thumbnails

02-07-2014, 10:59 PM	#2
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	.. Attached Thumbnails

02-08-2014, 09:44 AM	#7
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Magazine bottom Attached Thumbnails

02-08-2014, 11:56 AM	#9
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	This is my 1938 Luger. Finish is great and similar to the 41 here. Bluing looks comparable. Attached Thumbnails

02-08-2014, 01:01 PM	#14
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	I cannot swear that it wasn't reblued, but in any case it's a gorgeous gun. Congratulations indeed! __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

02-07-2014, 11:15 PM	#3
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Nothing really jumps out at me but I'd like to see a better photo of the mag bottom. I just can't see the details. Also, the bluing is exceptionally dark, even and shows absolutely no wear on the high spots, the side plate, etc. I'm not saying that it can't be genuine, but I'd want to look at it really closely because you're probably paying a premium for condition. Frequently these guns show different tones of bluing, some purplish, etc. dju

02-07-2014, 11:16 PM	#4
drbuster User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Mateo, California Posts: 1,432 Thanks: 2 Thanked 71 Times in 56 Posts	Exquisite 42-41 Mauser luger! The "n" suffix is proper as well. The only thing that would make this even rarer and more desirable is the lack of the P.08 marking. This is about as nice as they get.

02-07-2014, 11:17 PM	#5
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I've asked for a few more pictures so as soon as they come in I'll post. I have a 38 Luger in similar condition but it has muzzle wear and on the high points of the plate.

02-08-2014, 07:37 AM	#6
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 164 Times in 87 Posts	It looks too pretty to me! I might think it's been restored. If not it's a nice collectable. Good Luck!

02-08-2014, 11:43 AM	#8
stressed User Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 197 Thanks: 41 Thanked 43 Times in 30 Posts	Do you guys think it's been reblued? Looks almost too nice.

02-08-2014, 12:12 PM	#10
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Just found out this was a former Legacy Collectables piece: http://www.legacy-collectibles.com/m...near-mint-1505 If they say it's good, it must be

02-08-2014, 12:03 PM	#11
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	I think the picture of the trigger guard really shows the crispness of the letters. If it was re-blued I think it would be hard to achieve that unless the whole thing was completely stripped.

02-08-2014, 12:53 PM	#12
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	The mag. bottom looks good. I still think that the finish looks like a re-blue, HOWEVER, if Legacy has had their hands on it and says it is original, then who am I to question it after seeing a couple of photos? An extremely nice gun. Let us know if you land it. dju

02-08-2014, 12:54 PM	#13
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks all! The seller says that one grip is numbered "84" but the other isn't. Any thoughts on this?

02-08-2014, 02:32 PM	#15
wlyon Lifer 2X Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: May 2005 Location: Somewhere in Montana Posts: 2,652 Thanks: 3,210 Thanked 2,613 Times in 969 Posts	It looks good, maybe to good. Remember Legacy is in the business of selling. If not restored a very nice ,good as they get luger. I like a little more wear on the muzzle and sideplate. Would need a hands on by someone who knows more than me. Good luck. Bill __________________ Bill Lyon

02-08-2014, 03:19 PM	#16
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Thanks bill. What about the grip numbers? That's the only thing that is holding me up.

02-08-2014, 03:53 PM	#17
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	Correct grips for this gun would be numbered 05 not 84.

02-08-2014, 04:50 PM	#18
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	It seems to me that the numbering of wooden grips in the 1941 and 1942 years was a bit dicey. You see otherwise very nice guns with either both blank or one blank grip panel. So much so that I don't know if that should be a deal breaker. Not to say you, as the buyer, can't insist on a discount... It would be interesting to know the numbers stamped on the INSIDE of the side plate too. dju

02-08-2014, 05:13 PM	#19
garandguy56 User Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 55 Thanks: 3 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Here's a side by side comparison of the same gun: one from the Legacy website and one the seller has listed. Legacy says that they are waffen marked but no mention of the numbers, while the seller says it's marked "84" and then other other has nothing. Not sure what the case is but these grips look completely different. Seller says he never took them apart but who knows... Attached Thumbnails