Fake or original?

lugerP08thomas · 12-28-2013, 03:07 AM

Can anyone tell me if this is the real deal or not? I can't see it for sure with only one picture

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4701089

thanks

DavidJayUden · 12-28-2013, 08:26 AM

Hard to tell much from that photo, but I'd say that it was a real Luger but is now missing a whole lot of parts which are critical to its function. What does the description say?
dju

lugerP08thomas · 12-28-2013, 09:38 AM

Hi
It says, missing breech with internal parts offcourse and sideplate.
I didn't bid on the item but did contact the seller that i'm intrested if the sale wouldn't work out.
Breech isn't the easiest part to find but will see then.

Olle · 12-28-2013, 10:22 AM

It says "Alt Deko pistole", so it's an old display gun.

lugerP08thomas · 12-28-2013, 10:52 AM

Alt deko means it's an original piece made into non firing, but barrel isn't drilled or welded.
You have 2 types of deko in germany:
alt-deko: no changes to the lower receiver only breech cut off 45° and barrel sometimes has holes drilled, chamber is welded
new deko or just deko: lower receiver also grinded and a welding spot just before the place where bullet goes into chamber.

The grip's seems to me in a strange color that's why i asked.

rhuff · 12-28-2013, 04:06 PM

Those grips appear to be aftermarket/replica to me.

Olle · 12-28-2013, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerP08thomas

Alt deko means it's an original piece made into non firing, but barrel isn't drilled or welded.
You have 2 types of deko in germany:
alt-deko: no changes to the lower receiver only breech cut off 45° and barrel sometimes has holes drilled, chamber is welded
new deko or just deko: lower receiver also grinded and a welding spot just before the place where bullet goes into chamber.

The grip's seems to me in a strange color that's why i asked.

Gotcha. I have seen the term "deko" used for other display guns, but it's only used for deactivated guns in Germany then?

lugerP08thomas · 12-28-2013, 05:56 PM

Yes that's it. Otherwise they use repro or nachbau

Sergio Natali · 12-29-2013, 11:52 AM

From what you can see from the photo probably it is a real Luger but, with all the respect, what's the point of buying a gun with so many bits missing?

lugerP08thomas · 12-29-2013, 12:00 PM

Spare parts is the reason why, otherwise i would spent a lot more for buying it all separate. But at the moment it still isn't mine.

12-28-2013, 03:07 AM	#1
lugerP08thomas User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Fake or original? Can anyone tell me if this is the real deal or not? I can't see it for sure with only one picture http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4701089 thanks

12-29-2013, 11:52 AM	#9
Sergio Natali User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Somewhere in Northern Italy Posts: 2,646 Thanks: 1,087 Thanked 1,783 Times in 1,007 Posts	From what you can see from the photo probably it is a real Luger but, with all the respect, what's the point of buying a gun with so many bits missing? __________________ "Originality can't be restored and should be at the top of any collector's priority list.

12-28-2013, 08:26 AM	#2
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Hard to tell much from that photo, but I'd say that it was a real Luger but is now missing a whole lot of parts which are critical to its function. What does the description say? dju

12-28-2013, 09:38 AM	#3
lugerP08thomas User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Hi It says, missing breech with internal parts offcourse and sideplate. I didn't bid on the item but did contact the seller that i'm intrested if the sale wouldn't work out. Breech isn't the easiest part to find but will see then.

12-28-2013, 10:22 AM	#4
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	It says "Alt Deko pistole", so it's an old display gun.

12-28-2013, 10:52 AM	#5
lugerP08thomas User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Alt deko means it's an original piece made into non firing, but barrel isn't drilled or welded. You have 2 types of deko in germany: alt-deko: no changes to the lower receiver only breech cut off 45° and barrel sometimes has holes drilled, chamber is welded new deko or just deko: lower receiver also grinded and a welding spot just before the place where bullet goes into chamber. The grip's seems to me in a strange color that's why i asked.

12-28-2013, 04:06 PM	#6
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,305 Thanks: 2,735 Thanked 991 Times in 727 Posts	Those grips appear to be aftermarket/replica to me.

12-28-2013, 05:56 PM	#8
lugerP08thomas User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Yes that's it. Otherwise they use repro or nachbau

12-29-2013, 12:00 PM	#10
lugerP08thomas User Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 34 Thanks: 13 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Spare parts is the reason why, otherwise i would spent a lot more for buying it all separate. But at the moment it still isn't mine.