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lugerP08thomas 12-28-2013 03:07 AM

Fake or original?
 
Can anyone tell me if this is the real deal or not? I can't see it for sure with only one picture

http://www.egun.de/market/item.php?id=4701089

thanks

DavidJayUden 12-28-2013 08:26 AM

Hard to tell much from that photo, but I'd say that it was a real Luger but is now missing a whole lot of parts which are critical to its function. What does the description say?
dju

lugerP08thomas 12-28-2013 09:38 AM

Hi
It says, missing breech with internal parts offcourse and sideplate.
I didn't bid on the item but did contact the seller that i'm intrested if the sale wouldn't work out.
Breech isn't the easiest part to find but will see then.

Olle 12-28-2013 10:22 AM

It says "Alt Deko pistole", so it's an old display gun.

lugerP08thomas 12-28-2013 10:52 AM

Alt deko means it's an original piece made into non firing, but barrel isn't drilled or welded.
You have 2 types of deko in germany:
alt-deko: no changes to the lower receiver only breech cut off 45° and barrel sometimes has holes drilled, chamber is welded
new deko or just deko: lower receiver also grinded and a welding spot just before the place where bullet goes into chamber.

The grip's seems to me in a strange color that's why i asked.

rhuff 12-28-2013 04:06 PM

Those grips appear to be aftermarket/replica to me.

Olle 12-28-2013 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lugerP08thomas (Post 247031)
Alt deko means it's an original piece made into non firing, but barrel isn't drilled or welded.
You have 2 types of deko in germany:
alt-deko: no changes to the lower receiver only breech cut off 45° and barrel sometimes has holes drilled, chamber is welded
new deko or just deko: lower receiver also grinded and a welding spot just before the place where bullet goes into chamber.

The grip's seems to me in a strange color that's why i asked.

Gotcha. I have seen the term "deko" used for other display guns, but it's only used for deactivated guns in Germany then?

lugerP08thomas 12-28-2013 05:56 PM

Yes that's it. Otherwise they use repro or nachbau

Sergio Natali 12-29-2013 11:52 AM

From what you can see from the photo probably it is a real Luger but, with all the respect, what's the point of buying a gun with so many bits missing?

lugerP08thomas 12-29-2013 12:00 PM

Spare parts is the reason why, otherwise i would spent a lot more for buying it all separate. But at the moment it still isn't mine.


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