Need expert opinions

Brkdnc · 07-21-2009, 10:13 AM

On condition and value of a 1916 dated DWM luger with 2 magazines (original?) and holster and tool that a friend of mine picked up from a gentleman in his 80's, that he had brought back from the war.

I tried uploading pictures last night and this morning but it seems the photo server is down

, so I made a few web pages with the pictures for now and later I will upload the pictures to this post as I see that is the preferred method.

Luger Pictures

Edward Tinker · 07-21-2009, 10:25 AM

The market is funny right now.

All matching (appears to be, check firing pin), with 2 matching mags, and tool and nice holster.

If original and appears to be, probably $2500-$3000

(Just as an FYI, if no matching mags, then $1200-$1500, plus $250-$300 for the holster); matching mags from WW1 are unsual and have been faked, they will want to be looked at close.

Ed

congaman · 07-21-2009, 11:35 AM

Brkdnc.....Please keep me in mind if you determine a price for this based on the experts in this forum. They have the knowledge to place a fair market value on this (I do not have that type of knowledge). It looks like a great DWM. Thank you, Scott

Brkdnc · 07-21-2009, 11:42 AM

got some pictures attached more to come

Brkdnc · 07-21-2009, 11:50 AM

OK here are the rest

Mauser720 · 07-21-2009, 12:08 PM

Does that witness mark look right or is that just a matter of the camera angle?

Mauser720 - Ron

Brkdnc · 07-21-2009, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauser720

Does that witness mark look right or is that just a matter of the camera angle?

Looked OK to me at the time, but I don't have it to take a closer look at.

policeluger · 07-21-2009, 12:31 PM

A great matching rig as this, in prime condition, and this is, will bring min $3,800.00, even in these trying times......an 1916 rig just does not get any better......thanks for sharing it

RWS · 07-21-2009, 05:23 PM

I'm not an expert but it seems to be a wonderful rig. If mags are original and not reblued or refurbished you have a treasure. Don't sell at any price.

Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!

alvin · 07-21-2009, 07:18 PM

Love it!!

DavidJayUden · 07-21-2009, 09:33 PM

Should we see a suffix on the mags, assuming that there is one on the frame?

alvin · 07-21-2009, 10:06 PM

Not supposed to carry suffix because the barrel has no suffix. The frame does not supposed to have sufffix either.

cma22inc · 07-21-2009, 10:27 PM

Very nice indeed. Thanks for sharing!

DavidJayUden · 07-21-2009, 10:27 PM

Why no suffix on the frame? Is it a year of mfg. thing?

rolandtg · 07-21-2009, 11:07 PM

Very, very, pretty! Are the grips also numbered to the gun?

Brkdnc · 07-22-2009, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolandtg

Very, very, pretty! Are the grips also numbered to the gun?

WOW, I didn't know they numbered the grips also. I will have to see If I can get him to bring it back over and check the grips and the firing pin and give it a cleaning while I am at it, it needs it if you didn't notice it in the pictures.

I am pretty sure they will match but only one way to know for sure.

alanint · 07-22-2009, 09:07 AM

Please, PLEASE be careful in removing the left grip especially. Hundreds of grips have been chipped right where they meet the safety lever due to prying up or impatient removal.
This would be almost criminal on a pristine rig like this one.

Work on each grip by tapping gently and evenly from the inside through the magazine well with a non marring object like a wooden dowel.

alanint · 07-21-2009, 11:27 PM

First run of 10,000 guns carrie no suffix

07-21-2009, 10:13 AM	#1
Brkdnc User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Need expert opinions On condition and value of a 1916 dated DWM luger with 2 magazines (original?) and holster and tool that a friend of mine picked up from a gentleman in his 80's, that he had brought back from the war. I tried uploading pictures last night and this morning but it seems the photo server is down , so I made a few web pages with the pictures for now and later I will upload the pictures to this post as I see that is the preferred method. Luger Pictures

07-21-2009, 10:25 AM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	The market is funny right now. All matching (appears to be, check firing pin), with 2 matching mags, and tool and nice holster. If original and appears to be, probably $2500-$3000 (Just as an FYI, if no matching mags, then $1200-$1500, plus $250-$300 for the holster); matching mags from WW1 are unsual and have been faked, they will want to be looked at close. Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

07-21-2009, 11:42 AM	#4
Brkdnc User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	got some pictures attached more to come Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2009, 11:50 AM	#5
Brkdnc User Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 11 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	OK here are the rest Attached Thumbnails

07-21-2009, 10:27 PM	#13
cma22inc User Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa Bay FL Posts: 93 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Very nice indeed. Thanks for sharing! __________________ Matt A. Tampa, FL (C&R) Collector

07-21-2009, 11:35 AM	#3
congaman User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 23 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Brkdnc.....Please keep me in mind if you determine a price for this based on the experts in this forum. They have the knowledge to place a fair market value on this (I do not have that type of knowledge). It looks like a great DWM. Thank you, Scott

07-21-2009, 12:08 PM	#6
Mauser720 User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Kansas Posts: 535 Thanks: 18 Thanked 49 Times in 33 Posts	Does that witness mark look right or is that just a matter of the camera angle? Mauser720 - Ron

07-21-2009, 12:31 PM	#8
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	A great matching rig as this, in prime condition, and this is, will bring min $3,800.00, even in these trying times......an 1916 rig just does not get any better......thanks for sharing it

07-21-2009, 05:23 PM	#9
RWS User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Europe Posts: 34 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I'm not an expert but it seems to be a wonderful rig. If mags are original and not reblued or refurbished you have a treasure. Don't sell at any price. Thanks for sharing!!!!!!!!!!!!

07-21-2009, 07:18 PM	#10
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Love it!!

07-21-2009, 09:33 PM	#11
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Should we see a suffix on the mags, assuming that there is one on the frame?

07-21-2009, 10:06 PM	#12
alvin User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,843 Thanks: 132 Thanked 729 Times in 438 Posts	Not supposed to carry suffix because the barrel has no suffix. The frame does not supposed to have sufffix either.

07-21-2009, 11:07 PM	#15
rolandtg User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Hill Country Posts: 479 Thanks: 389 Thanked 265 Times in 114 Posts	Very, very, pretty! Are the grips also numbered to the gun?

07-22-2009, 09:07 AM	#17
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Please, PLEASE be careful in removing the left grip especially. Hundreds of grips have been chipped right where they meet the safety lever due to prying up or impatient removal. This would be almost criminal on a pristine rig like this one. Work on each grip by tapping gently and evenly from the inside through the magazine well with a non marring object like a wooden dowel.

07-21-2009, 11:27 PM	#18
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	First run of 10,000 guns carrie no suffix