Still's site down?

SteveM · 04-20-2008, 11:26 AM

Anybody else having trouble accessing it?

Ron Smith · 04-20-2008, 11:41 AM

It's been down for awhile now.

SteveM · 04-20-2008, 12:00 PM

I'm hoping it hasn't been hacked again..

Jan C Still · 04-20-2008, 12:26 PM

The experts are looking into it.
Thanks for your patience
Jan

lew1 · 04-20-2008, 12:59 PM

Still down.

Why does that site seem to attract the hackers ?

John Sabato · 04-20-2008, 01:35 PM

I am one of the "white hat" guys in the field of computer security... once the hackers discover a particular vulnerability in a system configuration type... such as the the web hosting software that Jan's site may be using, then they spend their time searching out other sites that use the same or similar configuration to see what mayhem they can cause for the notoriety...

They are vandals and terrorists... nothing less... if we could make the Patriot Act apply to them... we might be able to put the fear of God into them and drastically reduce the destruction they leave in their path...

Jan, Sorry that they appear to have hit your forum again... perhaps in the future you should consider making an announcement here in our announcement forum when things like this happen, and then make a followup announcement when things have been restored so your folks know they can get back on line on your site... it would cut down on some of the speculation...

In the meantime, I hope ALL your members know they are welcome here as well.

Don M · 04-20-2008, 02:01 PM

It's back up.

Jan C Still · 04-20-2008, 03:46 PM

John
Being in Alaska, one hour behind the West Coast, I am often behind the other members in logging on to the site and find out about problems later than others. I will try to be quicker in the future.

Tuco fixed the site in short time. I opened it to find a pornorgraphic add and immediatley locked the member out and deleted the add. It has been up and running now for some time.
Jan

John Sabato · 04-20-2008, 08:20 PM

Thanks for the update Jan... I hope you can keep the "black hats" out... This forum has been experiencing multiple attempts by hackers to post porn as well. So far, they have been unsuccessful.

lew1 · 04-21-2008, 03:43 PM

Some porn would liven the site up a bit

but then some of us old folk might have a heart attack.

John Sabato · 04-21-2008, 03:58 PM

I hope you are really just jokin charlie... that will never happen as long as I am associated with this website. We have standards, and I will enforce them as long as I am blessed with the responsibility of keeping that sleeze out of here...

This web site is supposed to be G-rated... I don't want anyone who wants to explain his Luger hobby to his grandchildren to ever have to cover their eyes... or explain things that they never should have been exposed to...

there are plenty of gun related sites where that kind of stuff takes place... this isn't going to be one of them.

Jan C Still · 04-21-2008, 04:44 PM

I fully agree with John.
Jan

John Sabato · 04-21-2008, 05:03 PM

Thanks Jan... I appreciate your support.

John Sabato · 04-21-2008, 10:04 PM

To all, Charlie and I have had an offline discussion and I understand that he was only joking...

But I want all the members to know that keeping porn off this forum is a daily chore, that none of us likes... it is no joking matter.

Thanks Charlie for your personal note...

04-20-2008, 11:26 AM	#1
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	Still's site down? Anybody else having trouble accessing it?

04-20-2008, 11:41 AM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	It's been down for awhile now. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

04-20-2008, 12:59 PM	#5
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Still down. Why does that site seem to attract the hackers ? __________________ charlie

04-20-2008, 01:35 PM	#6
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I am one of the "white hat" guys in the field of computer security... once the hackers discover a particular vulnerability in a system configuration type... such as the the web hosting software that Jan's site may be using, then they spend their time searching out other sites that use the same or similar configuration to see what mayhem they can cause for the notoriety... They are vandals and terrorists... nothing less... if we could make the Patriot Act apply to them... we might be able to put the fear of God into them and drastically reduce the destruction they leave in their path... Jan, Sorry that they appear to have hit your forum again... perhaps in the future you should consider making an announcement here in our announcement forum when things like this happen, and then make a followup announcement when things have been restored so your folks know they can get back on line on your site... it would cut down on some of the speculation... In the meantime, I hope ALL your members know they are welcome here as well. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-20-2008, 02:01 PM	#7
Don M Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 1,429 Thanks: 67 Thanked 292 Times in 191 Posts	It's back up. __________________ Regards, Don donmaus1@aol.com Author of History Writ in Steel: German Police Markings 1900-1936 http://www.historywritinsteel.com

04-20-2008, 12:00 PM	#3
SteveM User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,016 Thanks: 94 Thanked 275 Times in 137 Posts	I'm hoping it hasn't been hacked again..

04-20-2008, 12:26 PM	#4
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	The experts are looking into it. Thanks for your patience Jan

04-20-2008, 03:46 PM	#8
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	John Being in Alaska, one hour behind the West Coast, I am often behind the other members in logging on to the site and find out about problems later than others. I will try to be quicker in the future. Tuco fixed the site in short time. I opened it to find a pornorgraphic add and immediatley locked the member out and deleted the add. It has been up and running now for some time. Jan

04-20-2008, 08:20 PM	#9
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Thanks for the update Jan... I hope you can keep the "black hats" out... This forum has been experiencing multiple attempts by hackers to post porn as well. So far, they have been unsuccessful. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-21-2008, 03:43 PM	#10
lew1 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,108 Thanks: 82 Thanked 204 Times in 112 Posts	Some porn would liven the site up a bit but then some of us old folk might have a heart attack. __________________ charlie

04-21-2008, 03:58 PM	#11
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	I hope you are really just jokin charlie... that will never happen as long as I am associated with this website. We have standards, and I will enforce them as long as I am blessed with the responsibility of keeping that sleeze out of here... This web site is supposed to be G-rated... I don't want anyone who wants to explain his Luger hobby to his grandchildren to ever have to cover their eyes... or explain things that they never should have been exposed to... there are plenty of gun related sites where that kind of stuff takes place... this isn't going to be one of them. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-21-2008, 04:44 PM	#12
Jan C Still User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Box 240188, Douglas, Alaska, 99824 Posts: 463 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52 Times in 32 Posts	I fully agree with John. Jan

04-21-2008, 05:03 PM	#13
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	Thanks Jan... I appreciate your support. __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*

04-21-2008, 10:04 PM	#14
John Sabato Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: The Capital of the Free World Posts: 10,153 Thanks: 3,003 Thanked 2,304 Times in 1,096 Posts	To all, Charlie and I have had an offline discussion and I understand that he was only joking... But I want all the members to know that keeping porn off this forum is a daily chore, that none of us likes... it is no joking matter. Thanks Charlie for your personal note... __________________ regards, -John S "...We hold these truths to be self-evident that ALL men are created EQUAL *and are endowed by their Creator* with certain UNALIENABLE* rights, and among these are life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of happiness..."*