Artillery Luger Regiment Marks?

Ron T. · 12-19-2007, 01:46 PM

I am brand new to the forum and a new Luger collector. I have acquired a 1916 dated Artillery Luger with markings on the grip strap. I was told that they were Regiment Marks. Is there anyway to find out the history of the regiment marked on my gun? The markings are as follows: 122.R.121.5. The gun is all matching including the magazine and has the adjustable front sight. I would list it's condition about 90%.

Thank you for your help.

Ron Toth

Ron Smith · 12-19-2007, 04:11 PM

Hi Ron,

Welcome to the forum. Your unit mark would translate to the 122nd Infantry Regiment 121st company weapon #5. The problem being is that there weren't 121 Companies in a Regiment. Could this be a typo? Can you post some photos?

Ron S.

Ron T. · 12-20-2007, 01:34 PM

I'm sorry, it's 12.5, not 121.5

Ron Smith · 12-21-2007, 12:22 PM

That is much better, 122nd Infantry Regiment 12 Company weapon #5. Approx. 5% of 1916 LP.08s were unit marked, re: Jan Still's Imperial Lugers.

In 1916 the 122nd Fussilier Regt was attached to the 105th Infantry Division.

The 105th Div. was on the Eastern front in 1916.

Bulgaria, Macedonia and in Galicia: Lost 26 officers and 1165 men and moved to Courland.

In 1917 the 122nd Fus. Regt. was transferred to the 243rd Infantry Division on the Western Front.

Aisne.

Meuse Hill, where the 122nd had more heavy losses.

Meuse left bank

In 1918 took part in the Battle of Picardy where 122nd lost 207 men and was withdrawn.

Third Battle of the Somme, and lost 400 to POWs.

Edward Tinker · 12-21-2007, 12:23 PM

Ron, do you have this stuff electronically or do you have to tpye it in?

Ron Smith · 12-21-2007, 12:28 PM

Ed,

I'm too computer illiterate to get too fancy. I just type it in as I reference it.

Ron

Edward Tinker · 12-21-2007, 12:28 PM

Then an extra well done and many thanks from both forums my friend

MERRY CHRISTMAS !!

Ron Smith · 12-21-2007, 12:35 PM

Thanks Ed..That's a very nice jesture. It kind of makes it more worthwhile.

Merry Christmas to you too...

Ron

Ron T. · 12-23-2007, 12:44 PM

Ron,

Thank you very much for researching the history of my gun for me. I find the information facinating and it really makes the gun much more interesting when you know it's history. It sounds like it is quite rare if only 5% of the 1916 Lugers were regiment marked. I think I will hold onto it!

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year,

Ron Toth

Ron Smith · 12-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Ron,

Not really rare, but scarce. If you should ever decide to sell it? I would be interested in it.

Ron S.

Ron T. · 12-24-2007, 08:01 AM

Ron,

Thanks again and I will keep you in mind if I ever do decide to sell it.

Ron T.

12-19-2007, 01:46 PM	#1
Ron T. User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Artillery Luger Regiment Marks? I am brand new to the forum and a new Luger collector. I have acquired a 1916 dated Artillery Luger with markings on the grip strap. I was told that they were Regiment Marks. Is there anyway to find out the history of the regiment marked on my gun? The markings are as follows: 122.R.121.5. The gun is all matching including the magazine and has the adjustable front sight. I would list it's condition about 90%. Thank you for your help. Ron Toth

12-19-2007, 04:11 PM	#2
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Hi Ron, Welcome to the forum. Your unit mark would translate to the 122nd Infantry Regiment 121st company weapon #5. The problem being is that there weren't 121 Companies in a Regiment. Could this be a typo? Can you post some photos? Ron S. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-21-2007, 12:22 PM	#4
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	That is much better, 122nd Infantry Regiment 12 Company weapon #5. Approx. 5% of 1916 LP.08s were unit marked, re: Jan Still's Imperial Lugers. In 1916 the 122nd Fussilier Regt was attached to the 105th Infantry Division. The 105th Div. was on the Eastern front in 1916. Bulgaria, Macedonia and in Galicia: Lost 26 officers and 1165 men and moved to Courland. In 1917 the 122nd Fus. Regt. was transferred to the 243rd Infantry Division on the Western Front. Aisne. Meuse Hill, where the 122nd had more heavy losses. Meuse left bank In 1918 took part in the Battle of Picardy where 122nd lost 207 men and was withdrawn. Third Battle of the Somme, and lost 400 to POWs. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-21-2007, 12:28 PM	#6
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ed, I'm too computer illiterate to get too fancy. I just type it in as I reference it. Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-21-2007, 12:35 PM	#8
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Thanks Ed..That's a very nice jesture. It kind of makes it more worthwhile. Merry Christmas to you too... Ron __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-20-2007, 01:34 PM	#3
Ron T. User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I'm sorry, it's 12.5, not 121.5

12-21-2007, 12:23 PM	#5
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,924 Thanks: 2,014 Thanked 4,518 Times in 2,087 Posts	Ron, do you have this stuff electronically or do you have to tpye it in? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

12-23-2007, 12:44 PM	#9
Ron T. User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, Thank you very much for researching the history of my gun for me. I find the information facinating and it really makes the gun much more interesting when you know it's history. It sounds like it is quite rare if only 5% of the 1916 Lugers were regiment marked. I think I will hold onto it! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Ron Toth

12-23-2007, 01:49 PM	#10
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	Ron, Not really rare, but scarce. If you should ever decide to sell it? I would be interested in it. Ron S. __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

12-24-2007, 08:01 AM	#11
Ron T. User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Centreville, VA Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Ron, Thanks again and I will keep you in mind if I ever do decide to sell it. Ron T.