1937 S/42 went to the range today.....

minigun · 01-15-2003, 04:05 PM

Hello everyone,
Took my P.08 to the gun range today and fired 50rds through her. I used Geko 124 grain ammo. I also installed some aftermarket grips so that I would not damage my originals.

The results were three "failure to feeds" (out of the 50 rds fired). Stovepipe type misfeeds with the rounds that were trying to be chambered from the magazine. The only time they failed to feed was when I used one hand to fire it. All other times (including rapid firing the weapon) were successful. The times that no misfeeds occured was when I used the normal second hand under the magazine posture.

Another weird thing I noticed was the magazines had a deep scaring where the magazine latch rubs into the magazine body, when the mag is inserted into the weapon. I don't know if the mags were like that before, I just noticed them when I was finished firing. Sound like a problem???

I found this weapon to be very accurate, but didn't like the jamming up part.

Edward Tinker · 01-15-2003, 04:28 PM

I am not sure about the Luger (have forgot, although a long time ago there was a thread on this), but not holding some semi-auto pistols securely in your hand will result in failures to feed. The gun requires the push back to be slowed by a firm grip.

Is it possible that your one handed grip, was uh, limper than a two handed?

As I said, I don't remember if this pertains to the Luger, but I bet it does?

Frank · 01-15-2003, 07:47 PM

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Lonnie Zimmerman · 01-15-2003, 08:14 PM

Do you have a new magazine spring? If not, you should.
Lonnie

Roadkill · 01-15-2003, 08:32 PM

Wish I had the option of a two handed grip. Maybe one day I'll be able to shoot that way. Most like likey not though. Oh well.

rk

minigun · 01-15-2003, 09:35 PM

Yep, my "one handed grip" was limper than my two handed grip. That would affect the feeding I'm sure. I don't have new springs in the mags, I can't even get them apart to install new ones. I'm afraid of damage if I do (the mags have the little pin in the bottom shell of the mag).

I don't think it was the springs, I'm pretty sure it was my grip jamming up my Luger. The "one handed grip" was the only time it jammed up.

I guess I'm just used to my HK USP's non-jamming capabilities.

The Luger was also lub'ed up pretty good and had been thouroughly cleaned before the range.

Roadkill · 01-15-2003, 09:48 PM

New magazines are an option. I got a MecGar (sp?)
and a Triple K, the latter really works well for me. Cheaper than Dirt has good prices as do members here occasionally. They will however take advantage of you on a trade if you aren't careful.

rk

Hugh · 01-16-2003, 01:50 AM

AHHHHHHHHH ole RK's got a memory like an elephant! Glad he don't hold no grudges, <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" /> or does he?

Edward Tinker · 01-16-2003, 02:37 AM

Go on down to Alerbamer and find out Hugh?

Oh, send him a pair of grips, I'm sure he'd pop 'em on one of his shooters...

Lugerdoc · 01-16-2003, 09:07 AM

MiniG, It's possible that when you are using the two hand hold, that you are pushing the magazine up in the mag well to it's maximum, which improves the feeding. If the locking notch of your mag is worn, it may not be high enough, without the push, for the breech block to catch the next round every time. Tom

AGE · 01-16-2003, 11:59 PM

I was shooting my Frankenluger today. It has always functioned well with the numbered aluminum bottom magazine that came with it. Today I tried a nearly new MecGar magazine that cured function problems in my other two Lugers. Man, Frankenluger hated that magazine and screwed up every time. I switched back to the beat up old German magazine and it functioned perfectly again.

I guess the moral of the story is to try as many magazines as you can lay your hands on in the gun (making sure that they are latched in place).

01-15-2003, 04:05 PM	#1
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	1937 S/42 went to the range today..... Hello everyone, Took my P.08 to the gun range today and fired 50rds through her. I used Geko 124 grain ammo. I also installed some aftermarket grips so that I would not damage my originals. The results were three "failure to feeds" (out of the 50 rds fired). Stovepipe type misfeeds with the rounds that were trying to be chambered from the magazine. The only time they failed to feed was when I used one hand to fire it. All other times (including rapid firing the weapon) were successful. The times that no misfeeds occured was when I used the normal second hand under the magazine posture. Another weird thing I noticed was the magazines had a deep scaring where the magazine latch rubs into the magazine body, when the mag is inserted into the weapon. I don't know if the mags were like that before, I just noticed them when I was finished firing. Sound like a problem??? I found this weapon to be very accurate, but didn't like the jamming up part.

01-15-2003, 04:28 PM	#2
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	I am not sure about the Luger (have forgot, although a long time ago there was a thread on this), but not holding some semi-auto pistols securely in your hand will result in failures to feed. The gun requires the push back to be slowed by a firm grip. Is it possible that your one handed grip, was uh, limper than a two handed? As I said, I don't remember if this pertains to the Luger, but I bet it does? __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-15-2003, 08:14 PM	#4
Lonnie Zimmerman User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 523 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Do you have a new magazine spring? If not, you should. Lonnie __________________ Lonnie Zimmerman

01-16-2003, 01:50 AM	#8
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 165 Times in 64 Posts	AHHHHHHHHH ole RK's got a memory like an elephant! Glad he don't hold no grudges, <img border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" title="" src="graemlins/cussing.gif" /> or does he? __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

01-16-2003, 02:37 AM	#9
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,927 Thanks: 2,026 Thanked 4,525 Times in 2,090 Posts	Go on down to Alerbamer and find out Hugh? Oh, send him a pair of grips, I'm sure he'd pop 'em on one of his shooters... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

01-15-2003, 07:47 PM	#3
Frank RIP Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hot & Dry PHX, AZ Posts: 2,078 Thanks: 24 Thanked 163 Times in 87 Posts	Edward, you just won the bet you had with yourself!! Congratulations!! <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[jumper]" title="" src="graemlins/jumper.gif" /> Kelly, make sure your Luger is also properly lubricated!!! Good Luck!! <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

01-15-2003, 08:32 PM	#5
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	Wish I had the option of a two handed grip. Maybe one day I'll be able to shoot that way. Most like likey not though. Oh well. rk

01-15-2003, 09:35 PM	#6
minigun User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 424 Thanks: 15 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Yep, my "one handed grip" was limper than my two handed grip. That would affect the feeding I'm sure. I don't have new springs in the mags, I can't even get them apart to install new ones. I'm afraid of damage if I do (the mags have the little pin in the bottom shell of the mag). I don't think it was the springs, I'm pretty sure it was my grip jamming up my Luger. The "one handed grip" was the only time it jammed up. I guess I'm just used to my HK USP's non-jamming capabilities. The Luger was also lub'ed up pretty good and had been thouroughly cleaned before the range.

01-15-2003, 09:48 PM	#7
Roadkill User Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,632 Thanks: 1 Thanked 28 Times in 17 Posts	New magazines are an option. I got a MecGar (sp?) and a Triple K, the latter really works well for me. Cheaper than Dirt has good prices as do members here occasionally. They will however take advantage of you on a trade if you aren't careful. rk

01-16-2003, 09:07 AM	#10
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 736 Times in 483 Posts	MiniG, It's possible that when you are using the two hand hold, that you are pushing the magazine up in the mag well to it's maximum, which improves the feeding. If the locking notch of your mag is worn, it may not be high enough, without the push, for the breech block to catch the next round every time. Tom __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

01-16-2003, 11:59 PM	#11
AGE User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 597 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I was shooting my Frankenluger today. It has always functioned well with the numbered aluminum bottom magazine that came with it. Today I tried a nearly new MecGar magazine that cured function problems in my other two Lugers. Man, Frankenluger hated that magazine and screwed up every time. I switched back to the beat up old German magazine and it functioned perfectly again. I guess the moral of the story is to try as many magazines as you can lay your hands on in the gun (making sure that they are latched in place). __________________ Al Eggers (AGE) NRA Life Member