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03-29-2004, 08:08 PM | #1 |
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question on when the last lugers were made
were the last lugers the byf 41\42? were they made on license after that in other countries?
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The official end came about in June 1942. They continued assembly from parts till December 1942. There doesn't appear to be any records of byf being made in other countries, although after the German military stopped accepting them some were sent to countries, such as Portugual...
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Hello,
If I'm not mistaken, the last Mauser produced P08s were the BYF 42 M Block that were sent to Portugal as their model 943 pistol... ( This specific information is found in III Reich Lugers by J. C. Still ) Frank, can you help on this `` last P08s `` topic........THX, MARK |
03-30-2004, 08:38 AM | #4 |
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I think you guys are forgetting about the Mauser Production of the Luger in the 1970's & 80's... those are REAL Lugers too! and I believe the Swiss manufactured their Lugers until about 1952, but I am separated from my reference library at the moment... so maybe someone else can comment on Swiss production?
Pete Ebbink are you listening?
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The last Lugers were made in 1945, except the post war Lugers made by both Mauser and Aimco (Stoeger). They are called Krieghoffs!!!!
I meant to say Third Reich Lugers!! |
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Sorry...John...
The last Swiss lugers by Bern were made in 1947 (commerical series). But then there was one (1) prototype (model 29/65 W+F) they made in 1965 at the request of the Interarms folks. Turned out this one cost too much to make, so Sam Cummins went to the Mauser folks. I think the Bern folks sold their swiss machinery to the Mauser/Interarms folks which started making the swiss-style lugers in the early 1970's. p.s. What about the "French lugers"...??? When were those assembled...? Regards, Pete... |
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I can't help it...I have to say it: The last real Lugers were made in 1918!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ron Wood:
<strong>I can't help it...I have to say it: The last real Lugers were made in 1918! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"> |
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To be perfectly honest, in weaker moments in the past I have owned an early S-Code Krieghoff, a Simson, a banner Mauser, a byf, a S/42 and probably a couple of others I have forgotten about. And currently I own a Portuguese GNR, a KOL Dutch, a Vickers, a '29 Swiss and a M23 Finnish. So every now and then I do get soft in the head.
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And I seem to remember a sweet "larger" Luger made in Kaliforinia?
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Yeah, I really went soft in the head that time (kicked the stuffings out of my wallet too).
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But we ought to go shootin'
Seriously, since I am so "close" now, I ought to make it down there, the Asst. Provost Marshal is a civ and a close friend of mine, so two birds with one stone? Whens the house going to be finished? (I'll delete this posting after a bit, I am at work, so no e-mail contacts to ask this same questions).
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Something tells me that the neither the group of "imitation" Lugers you listed, nor the LARGE one will depreciate in value in my lifetime... that softspot isn't as soft as you make it out to be...
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Ed, don't forget to stop and say hi if you drive to El Paso. I am sure Thor and as well as myself would like to get together and meet.
John & John, I have to agree with both of you. Just read my signature block. Sid.
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437 miles to Peralta, New Mexico, so we'll see. When I have extra time But that would be really nice to see people!
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We break ground on the new house next week! Target completion date is 15 September.
BTW Ed, our son lives in Boulder CO, so when we go to see him you are in real danger of a drop in visit some day. Prototype!!! Man those things are valuable! And to think...they got it right so early on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Strider:
<strong>....If it is made before 1930 ..........It is a prototype..</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva"><img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> _________ <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> ___________________ <img border="0" alt="[hiha]" title="" src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">Originally posted by Ron Wood: <strong>We break ground on the new house next week! Target completion date is 15 September.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">You are having a target painted on the side of your house??? Wow - the Zoning Board must be having a fit - not to mention your neighbors..??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> |
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Good catch John of Dunkle!! Quick eyes! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />
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Pete, I believe that the French Lugers were produced (assembled ? ) in 1945-46, but I don't have any references available as I type this...
can someone else confirm this?
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