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sverre 03-29-2004 09:08 PM

question on when the last lugers were made
 
were the last lugers the byf 41\42? were they made on license after that in other countries?

Johnny C. Kitchens 03-29-2004 11:08 PM

The official end came about in June 1942. They continued assembly from parts till December 1942. There doesn't appear to be any records of byf being made in other countries, although after the German military stopped accepting them some were sent to countries, such as Portugual...

kidvett 03-29-2004 11:09 PM

Hello,

If I'm not mistaken, the last Mauser produced P08s were the BYF 42 M Block that were sent to Portugal as their model 943 pistol... ( This specific information is found in III Reich Lugers by J. C. Still )

Frank, can you help on this `` last P08s `` topic........THX,

MARK :)

John Sabato 03-30-2004 09:38 AM

I think you guys are forgetting about the Mauser Production of the Luger in the 1970's & 80's... those are REAL Lugers too! and I believe the Swiss manufactured their Lugers until about 1952, but I am separated from my reference library at the moment... so maybe someone else can comment on Swiss production?

Pete Ebbink are you listening? :confused:

Frank 03-30-2004 11:05 AM

The last Lugers were made in 1945, except the post war Lugers made by both Mauser and Aimco (Stoeger). They are called Krieghoffs!!!!

:)

I meant to say Third Reich Lugers!!

Pete Ebbink 03-30-2004 02:32 PM

Sorry...John...

The last Swiss lugers by Bern were made in 1947 (commerical series).

But then there was one (1) prototype (model 29/65 W+F) they made in 1965 at the request of the Interarms folks. Turned out this one cost too much to make, so Sam Cummins went to the Mauser folks. I think the Bern folks sold their swiss machinery to the Mauser/Interarms folks which started making the swiss-style lugers in the early 1970's.

p.s. What about the "French lugers"...??? When were those assembled...?

Regards,

Pete...

Ron Wood 03-30-2004 03:14 PM

I can't help it...I have to say it: The last real Lugers were made in 1918! :p

John D. 03-30-2004 03:26 PM

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John Sabato 03-30-2004 03:34 PM

Me too John D. ! :D That Ron Wood dude sure is hard headed about that issue!

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Ron Wood 03-30-2004 04:14 PM

To be perfectly honest, in weaker moments in the past I have owned an early S-Code Krieghoff, a Simson, a banner Mauser, a byf, a S/42 and probably a couple of others I have forgotten about. And currently I own a Portuguese GNR, a KOL Dutch, a Vickers, a '29 Swiss and a M23 Finnish. So every now and then I do get soft in the head.

Edward Tinker 03-30-2004 04:19 PM

And I seem to remember a sweet "larger" Luger made in Kaliforinia?

Ed

Ron Wood 03-30-2004 04:22 PM

Yeah, I really went soft in the head that time (kicked the stuffings out of my wallet too).

Edward Tinker 03-30-2004 04:38 PM

But we ought to go shootin' :D

Seriously, since I am so "close" now, I ought to make it down there, the Asst. Provost Marshal is a civ and a close friend of mine, so two birds with one stone? Whens the house going to be finished? (I'll delete this posting after a bit, I am at work, so no e-mail contacts to ask this same questions).

John Sabato 03-30-2004 04:40 PM

Something tells me that the neither the group of "imitation" Lugers you listed, nor the LARGE one will depreciate in value in my lifetime... that softspot isn't as soft as you make it out to be... :)

Strider 03-30-2004 04:47 PM

Ed, don't forget to stop and say hi if you drive to El Paso. I am sure Thor and as well as myself would like to get together and meet.

John & John, I have to agree with both of you. Just read my signature block. :D

Sid.

Edward Tinker 03-30-2004 04:57 PM

437 miles to Peralta, New Mexico, so we'll see. When I have extra time :D But that would be really nice to see people! :)

Ed

Ron Wood 03-30-2004 05:03 PM

We break ground on the new house next week! Target completion date is 15 September.

BTW Ed, our son lives in Boulder CO, so when we go to see him you are in real danger of a drop in visit some day.

Prototype!!! Man those things are valuable! And to think...they got it right so early on. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

John D. 03-30-2004 06:26 PM

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<strong>We break ground on the new house next week! Target completion date is 15 September.....</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica,Geneva">You are having a target painted on the side of your house??? Wow - the Zoning Board must be having a fit - not to mention your neighbors..??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

Thor 03-30-2004 06:38 PM

Good catch John of Dunkle!! Quick eyes! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

John Sabato 03-30-2004 07:00 PM

Pete, I believe that the French Lugers were produced (assembled ? ) in 1945-46, but I don't have any references available as I type this...

can someone else confirm this?


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