1939 s/42 1179n

jangus · 02-23-2016, 10:52 PM

I read in shotgun news article on lugers byPeter Kokalis that in 1939 the s/42 started with sn 1330n and I read some where else it started around 4000n, I have one all matching numbers 1179n can anybody explain this.

DonVoigt · 02-23-2016, 11:10 PM

Different sources give different ranges; older books may not be a precise as newer ones with later information; sometimes we dis-remember; sometimes Peter is wrong.

1130 is "around" 4000 considering 10K "n"s were made; I would not worry about it. JMHO.

guns3545 · 02-23-2016, 11:18 PM

Joe,

Welcome to the Forum.

It is certainly true that the n-block was the transition between 1938 and 1939 production. FYI, transitions in mid-block are not unusual, in fact more the rule.

It is equally true that transitions are exactly that; a transition. There is no clear cut number for a cutover. That's the nature of gun manufacturing all over the world.

The earliest REPORTED 1939 S/42 is 1330n. But the latest 1938 n-block is 6575n. There is an overlap between 1938 and 1939.

So, congratulations, you now have the earliest reported n-block 1939 S/42 for what its worth and that's not much. Unless and until someone comes up with a lower number. Or not.

Hope this helps.

John

tharpo · 02-23-2016, 11:55 PM

Jangus,
Do you have pictures of the gun? It is possible your suffix is a "p" and not an "n".

Tom

jangus · 02-24-2016, 07:08 PM

pictures

kurusu · 02-24-2016, 07:22 PM

Tharpo nailed it. That's a p not an n.

jangus · 02-24-2016, 08:22 PM

I had 5 different people look at it and everyone said it was a n , what`t a n look like if that`s a p

jangus · 02-24-2016, 08:48 PM

ok it`s a p, I found a p and a n and compared now I know. thanks for the info.

DonVoigt · 02-24-2016, 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jangus

ok it`s a p, I found a p and a n and compared now I know. thanks for the info.

If you think a "p" is confusing, look at the "Q"!

tharpo · 02-24-2016, 08:50 PM

Here is a "n".

Tom

02-23-2016, 10:52 PM	#1
jangus New User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	1939 s/42 1179n I read in shotgun news article on lugers byPeter Kokalis that in 1939 the s/42 started with sn 1330n and I read some where else it started around 4000n, I have one all matching numbers 1179n can anybody explain this.

02-23-2016, 11:10 PM	#2
DonVoigt User Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: near Charlotte NC Posts: 4,681 Thanks: 1,443 Thanked 4,356 Times in 2,041 Posts	Different sources give different ranges; older books may not be a precise as newer ones with later information; sometimes we dis-remember; sometimes Peter is wrong. 1130 is "around" 4000 considering 10K "n"s were made; I would not worry about it. JMHO. __________________ 03man(Don Voigt); Luger student and collector. Looking for DWM side plate: 69 ; Dreyse 1907 pistol K.S. Gendarmerie

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02-23-2016, 11:18 PM	#3
guns3545 Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 438 Thanks: 661 Thanked 493 Times in 219 Posts	Joe, Welcome to the Forum. It is certainly true that the n-block was the transition between 1938 and 1939 production. FYI, transitions in mid-block are not unusual, in fact more the rule. It is equally true that transitions are exactly that; a transition. There is no clear cut number for a cutover. That's the nature of gun manufacturing all over the world. The earliest REPORTED 1939 S/42 is 1330n. But the latest 1938 n-block is 6575n. There is an overlap between 1938 and 1939. So, congratulations, you now have the earliest reported n-block 1939 S/42 for what its worth and that's not much. Unless and until someone comes up with a lower number. Or not. Hope this helps. John

02-23-2016, 11:55 PM	#4
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 544 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	Jangus, Do you have pictures of the gun? It is possible your suffix is a "p" and not an "n". Tom

02-24-2016, 07:22 PM	#6
kurusu User Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,225 Thanks: 2,679 Thanked 930 Times in 509 Posts	Tharpo nailed it. That's a p not an n.

02-24-2016, 08:22 PM	#7
jangus New User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I had 5 different people look at it and everyone said it was a n , what`t a n look like if that`s a p

02-24-2016, 08:48 PM	#8
jangus New User Join Date: Feb 2016 Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	ok it`s a p, I found a p and a n and compared now I know. thanks for the info.