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jangus 02-23-2016 10:52 PM

1939 s/42 1179n
 
I read in shotgun news article on lugers byPeter Kokalis that in 1939 the s/42 started with sn 1330n and I read some where else it started around 4000n, I have one all matching numbers 1179n can anybody explain this.

DonVoigt 02-23-2016 11:10 PM

Different sources give different ranges; older books may not be a precise as newer ones with later information; sometimes we dis-remember; sometimes Peter is wrong.

1130 is "around" 4000 considering 10K "n"s were made; I would not worry about it. JMHO.

guns3545 02-23-2016 11:18 PM

Joe,

Welcome to the Forum.

It is certainly true that the n-block was the transition between 1938 and 1939 production. FYI, transitions in mid-block are not unusual, in fact more the rule.

It is equally true that transitions are exactly that; a transition. There is no clear cut number for a cutover. That's the nature of gun manufacturing all over the world.

The earliest REPORTED 1939 S/42 is 1330n. But the latest 1938 n-block is 6575n. There is an overlap between 1938 and 1939.

So, congratulations, you now have the earliest reported n-block 1939 S/42 for what its worth and that's not much. Unless and until someone comes up with a lower number. Or not.

Hope this helps.

John

tharpo 02-23-2016 11:55 PM

Jangus,
Do you have pictures of the gun? It is possible your suffix is a "p" and not an "n".

Tom

jangus 02-24-2016 07:08 PM

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kurusu 02-24-2016 07:22 PM

Tharpo nailed it. That's a p not an n.

jangus 02-24-2016 08:22 PM

I had 5 different people look at it and everyone said it was a n , what`t a n look like if that`s a p

jangus 02-24-2016 08:48 PM

ok it`s a p, I found a p and a n and compared now I know. thanks for the info.

tharpo 02-24-2016 08:50 PM

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Here is a "n".

Tom

DonVoigt 02-24-2016 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jangus (Post 284675)
ok it`s a p, I found a p and a n and compared now I know. thanks for the info.

If you think a "p" is confusing, look at the "Q"!:eek:

Sergio Natali 02-25-2016 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by jangus (Post 284673)
I had 5 different people look at it and everyone said it was a n , what`t a n look like if that`s a p

jangus

You're right it can be a bit misleading, I enclose a table of suffixes for your records.

Best.

guns3545 02-25-2016 09:26 AM

Photos of Magazine bottoms
 
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Joe,

They say pictures are worth a thousand words.

Someone on the Forum posted this great compendium of scriptic suffixes correlated to the year of manufacture.

Very helpful.

Here it is. Probably the most helpful document I've seen in years. And also correlates years with inspection stamps.

John


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