Baby Luger Article

Ron Wood · 06-01-2003, 10:05 PM

For those of you for whom the names Neil Keller and Hugh Clark are familiar, check out page 40 of the current July/August issue of American Handgunner.

Thor · 06-01-2003, 10:58 PM

Ron, this was also brought up on the ar15.com hand board that Hannah Reitsch moderates, I posted some pics of the subject Lugers for them. I think you have to register to access it though.AR 15 Luger Article

Ron Wood · 06-01-2003, 11:39 PM

Thanks Ted. I could access the thread and see the pictures, but I am sure I would have to register in order to post. Nice pics by the way. There are additional pictures in the American Handgunner article.

Thor · 06-01-2003, 11:43 PM

Was Hugh actually mentioned in the article! I understood that Keller was. Frank Manders will have a very nice FM logo on his baby that we will be finishing soon. That should be a very nice weapon, by the way, how is yours coming along Ron?

Ron Wood · 06-02-2003, 12:10 AM

Hugh was mentioned as the grip maker, with the explanation that the grips are sectioned, glued together and re-checkered.

I haven't worked on my baby for years. Got the 1900 frame cut down, installed a coil mainspring assembly (like the Dutch prototypes) and adapted a 1906 breech block to the 1900 toggle train. Still haven't gotten a barrel made, mainly due to the fact that it requires long-frame threading. A long-frame 9mm barrel is about as scarce as a baby Luger. It will require a custom barrel to be made from scratch and I just haven't looked around enough to find someone to do it right.

Thor · 06-02-2003, 01:00 PM

Ron,good luck on the barrel work! The baby the AMERICAN HANDGUNNER Article shows (serial 03) on the sideplate IS the G date I did the finish work, strawing, rust bluing, fire bluing for him, so it must have been one of the first ones he put together. I went back in my archives and found this "during" picture, in the white. NICE article! Neil Keller Baby Luger-In the White.......Almost-CLICK HERE FOR PICTURE

Hugh · 06-03-2003, 10:51 AM

<img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" /> Ron,

I have a standard 4" 9mm bbl that has had the collar thinned so that it fits a 1900 frame. The remaining collar is very thin, but it does work. This bbl could be shortened and the sight band reinstalled like I do on the baby's. If you want this bll, it is yours at no cost, just let me know. <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" />

Ron Wood · 06-03-2003, 12:04 PM

Hugh,
Bless your heart. Generosity like that continues to increase my appreciation of the quality of people that inhabit this forum. I appreciate the offer, but I am afraid I would never be satisfied with the appearance. You know the work that goes into a baby, so it better be right when you are done. Again, thanks for your offer.

Lugerdoc · 06-11-2003, 08:57 AM

Ron, I've found a source for long frame 7.65mm barrels in Germany, but no 9mms. TH

Brew_Ha_Ha · 06-11-2003, 11:34 PM

I just skimmed through the article today at Borders.(For those of you who live in states without a Borders, it is a major "fad" bookstore with a cafe, but at least the provide a lot of gun related books.) I also saw Hugh Clarke's name mention and wondered if Ted was mention, but I had to leave so I couldn't read the whole thing. Is the book The Luger Story a good read?

Edward Tinker · 06-11-2003, 11:43 PM

Nick,

I will have to get that magazine!!

Yes, the Luger Story by Walter is a good book, good read, he has some things that are a bit different than American writers, but that is good I think! {{He is a Brit, Tac might know more if he is a true Brit or a forced Brit,

}}

Ed

Johnny C. Kitchens · 06-15-2003, 08:07 PM

After reading about the"Baby Lugers" here, I came across an article in the Febuary 1999 Guns & Ammo about the return of the "Baby Luger" chambered in .32 ACP, made by Krausewerk. A faithful reproduction of the original...

Thor · 06-15-2003, 08:37 PM

yep, those run about $15 GRAND apiece!

06-01-2003, 10:05 PM	#1
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Baby Luger Article For those of you for whom the names Neil Keller and Hugh Clark are familiar, check out page 40 of the current July/August issue of American Handgunner. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-01-2003, 10:58 PM	#2
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Ron, this was also brought up on the ar15.com hand board that Hannah Reitsch moderates, I posted some pics of the subject Lugers for them. I think you have to register to access it though.AR 15 Luger Article __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-01-2003, 11:39 PM	#3
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Thanks Ted. I could access the thread and see the pictures, but I am sure I would have to register in order to post. Nice pics by the way. There are additional pictures in the American Handgunner article. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-01-2003, 11:43 PM	#4
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Was Hugh actually mentioned in the article! I understood that Keller was. Frank Manders will have a very nice FM logo on his baby that we will be finishing soon. That should be a very nice weapon, by the way, how is yours coming along Ron? __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-02-2003, 12:10 AM	#5
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Hugh was mentioned as the grip maker, with the explanation that the grips are sectioned, glued together and re-checkered. I haven't worked on my baby for years. Got the 1900 frame cut down, installed a coil mainspring assembly (like the Dutch prototypes) and adapted a 1906 breech block to the 1900 toggle train. Still haven't gotten a barrel made, mainly due to the fact that it requires long-frame threading. A long-frame 9mm barrel is about as scarce as a baby Luger. It will require a custom barrel to be made from scratch and I just haven't looked around enough to find someone to do it right. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-02-2003, 01:00 PM	#6
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	Ron,good luck on the barrel work! The baby the AMERICAN HANDGUNNER Article shows (serial 03) on the sideplate IS the G date I did the finish work, strawing, rust bluing, fire bluing for him, so it must have been one of the first ones he put together. I went back in my archives and found this "during" picture, in the white. NICE article! Neil Keller Baby Luger-In the White.......Almost-CLICK HERE FOR PICTURE __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."

06-03-2003, 10:51 AM	#7
Hugh RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Southeast Texas Swamp Posts: 2,460 Thanks: 2 Thanked 166 Times in 65 Posts	<img border="0" alt="[bigbye]" title="" src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" /> Ron, I have a standard 4" 9mm bbl that has had the collar thinned so that it fits a 1900 frame. The remaining collar is very thin, but it does work. This bbl could be shortened and the sight band reinstalled like I do on the baby's. If you want this bll, it is yours at no cost, just let me know. <img border="0" alt="[thumbsup]" title="" src="graemlins/bigok.gif" /> __________________ *TRUMP FOR PREZ IN '20!*

06-03-2003, 12:04 PM	#8
Ron Wood Moderator 2010 LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Santa Teresa New Mexico just outside of the West Texas town of El Paso Posts: 7,035 Thanks: 1,106 Thanked 5,242 Times in 1,719 Posts	Hugh, Bless your heart. Generosity like that continues to increase my appreciation of the quality of people that inhabit this forum. I appreciate the offer, but I am afraid I would never be satisfied with the appearance. You know the work that goes into a baby, so it better be right when you are done. Again, thanks for your offer. __________________ If it's made after 1918...it's a reproduction

06-11-2003, 08:57 AM	#9
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	Ron, I've found a source for long frame 7.65mm barrels in Germany, but no 9mms. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

06-11-2003, 11:34 PM	#10
Brew_Ha_Ha User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: NC Posts: 66 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I just skimmed through the article today at Borders.(For those of you who live in states without a Borders, it is a major "fad" bookstore with a cafe, but at least the provide a lot of gun related books.) I also saw Hugh Clarke's name mention and wondered if Ted was mention, but I had to leave so I couldn't read the whole thing. Is the book The Luger Story a good read? __________________ Honesty is the best policy, but insanity is a better defense.

06-11-2003, 11:43 PM	#11
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,960 Thanks: 2,062 Thanked 4,591 Times in 2,114 Posts	Nick, I will have to get that magazine!! Yes, the Luger Story by Walter is a good book, good read, he has some things that are a bit different than American writers, but that is good I think! {{He is a Brit, Tac might know more if he is a true Brit or a forced Brit, }} Ed __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

06-15-2003, 08:07 PM	#12
Johnny C. Kitchens User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Arlington, Texas Posts: 518 Thanks: 0 Thanked 20 Times in 8 Posts	After reading about the"Baby Lugers" here, I came across an article in the Febuary 1999 Guns & Ammo about the return of the "Baby Luger" chambered in .32 ACP, made by Krausewerk. A faithful reproduction of the original... __________________ Johnny C. Kitchens

06-15-2003, 08:37 PM	#13
Thor User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Rio Rancho, New Mexico Posts: 4,583 Thanks: 958 Thanked 970 Times in 276 Posts	yep, those run about $15 GRAND apiece! __________________ Thor's Luger Clinic http://members.rennlist.com/lugerman/ Ted Green (Thor Yaller Boots) 725 Western Hills Dr SE, Rio Rancho, NM 87124 915-526-8925 Email thor340@aol.com ----------------------------------- John3:3 Jesus answered and said to him, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God."