help for value

cda_berbaro · 11-26-2014, 02:57 PM

hi, thi is my luger. Good Value? How much?
Many thanks

lugerholsterrepair · 11-26-2014, 03:50 PM

With all the little holes drilled where the serial numbers used to be...Not much.

Lugerdoc · 11-26-2014, 04:44 PM

If this is only tape over the first 2 digits of the serial, vise holes, I'd be conserned that the caliber (on the bottom of the barrel) is 9x21 vise 9x16 standard parabellum. TH

lugerholsterrepair · 11-26-2014, 05:16 PM

Giuseppe My post was kind of a joke but yes..coupled with the barrel change and the loss of finish this pistol is on the lower end of any value scale..

However if it has not been de milled and is in a calibur accepted in a European country for shooting then we would not be that familiar with values in Italy. Here a shooter might bring $600-800.

Lyn Islaub · 11-26-2014, 09:44 PM

It looks to be a legitimate 1941 dated Code 42 Mauser Luger with a matching magazine. There were only about 7,000 of them made and many seemed to have disappeared in Russia. It's well worn and although I can't read the inscriptions on the bottom of the barrel clearly, it looks to have the original serial number and there appear to be capture markings forward of the serial number. It's a relatively rare wartime Luger and not necessarily a "shooter".

DavidJayUden · 11-26-2014, 10:19 PM

Lynn,
What is stamped in front of the serial number is "9x21", showing that the chamber has been punched out to make it Italian Friendly. It makes it a bit less desirable elsewhere but unfortunately necessary for private ownership in Italy.
Not sure if it is still "legitimate".
dju

sheepherder · 11-26-2014, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lugerdoc

...I'd be conserned that the caliber (on the bottom of the barrel) is 9x21 vise 9x16 standard parabellum. TH

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OK, Tom's pulling our leg...

It is stamped 9x21...I don't consider that to be any detriment but I know a true collector would...

Barrel seems original, just re-chambered...

ithacaartist · 11-27-2014, 02:34 AM

Giuseppe,

You've censored your serial number in your pics. We see images edited this way on other occasions, and none of us could propose exactly why this is done. It was not regarded as any effective means of protecting anything we could imagine. I am curious why it was done.

David Parker

Those do look like holes!

cda_berbaro · 11-27-2014, 02:44 AM

PSF in Italy is "smokeless pownder"

cda_berbaro · 11-27-2014, 02:45 AM

What does it mean "p" under the barrel?
Thanks

kurusu · 11-27-2014, 04:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cda_berbaro

What does it mean "p" under the barrel?
Thanks

The "p" is part of the serial number.

Military Lugers were numbered in 10000 blocks starting with just the numbers then numbers and letter "a" then letter "b" and so on.

tharpo · 11-27-2014, 09:31 AM

The suffix on the gun is a "p" but the suffix on the magazine appears to be an "o". Would need a better picture of the magazine to verify.

cda_berbaro · 11-27-2014, 11:16 AM

you're right, it's seems a "o".
So the magazine is by another gun?

kurusu · 11-27-2014, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cda_berbaro

you're right, it's seems a "o".
So the magazine is by another gun?

Yes. same number but from the precedent block There's a 10000 guns difference.

11-26-2014, 02:57 PM	#1
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11-26-2014, 03:50 PM	#2
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	With all the little holes drilled where the serial numbers used to be...Not much. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-26-2014, 04:44 PM	#3
Lugerdoc Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: POB 398 St.Charles,MO. 63302 Posts: 5,089 Thanks: 6 Thanked 737 Times in 484 Posts	If this is only tape over the first 2 digits of the serial, vise holes, I'd be conserned that the caliber (on the bottom of the barrel) is 9x21 vise 9x16 standard parabellum. TH __________________ Tom Heller POB 398 ST.Charles, MO. 63302 Tel 636-447-3006 lugerdoc@charter.net

11-26-2014, 05:16 PM	#4
lugerholsterrepair Moderator Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Arizona/Colorado Posts: 7,775 Thanks: 4,995 Thanked 3,133 Times in 1,439 Posts	Giuseppe My post was kind of a joke but yes..coupled with the barrel change and the loss of finish this pistol is on the lower end of any value scale.. However if it has not been de milled and is in a calibur accepted in a European country for shooting then we would not be that familiar with values in Italy. Here a shooter might bring $600-800. __________________ Jerry Burney 11491 S. Guadalupe Drive Yuma AZ 85367-6182 lugerholsterrepair@earthlink.net 928 342-7583 (CO & AZ) Year Round 719 207-3331 (cell) "For those who Fight For It, Life has a flavor the protected will never know."

11-27-2014, 02:34 AM	#8
ithacaartist Twice a Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Atop the highest hill in Schuyler County NY Posts: 3,369 Thanks: 7,432 Thanked 2,611 Times in 1,378 Posts	Giuseppe, You've censored your serial number in your pics. We see images edited this way on other occasions, and none of us could propose exactly why this is done. It was not regarded as any effective means of protecting anything we could imagine. I am curious why it was done. David Parker Those do look like holes! __________________ "... Liberty is the seed and soil, the air and light, the dew and rain of progress, love and joy."-- Robert Greene Ingersoll 1894

11-26-2014, 09:44 PM	#5
Lyn Islaub Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 435 Thanks: 3 Thanked 152 Times in 72 Posts	It looks to be a legitimate 1941 dated Code 42 Mauser Luger with a matching magazine. There were only about 7,000 of them made and many seemed to have disappeared in Russia. It's well worn and although I can't read the inscriptions on the bottom of the barrel clearly, it looks to have the original serial number and there appear to be capture markings forward of the serial number. It's a relatively rare wartime Luger and not necessarily a "shooter".

11-26-2014, 10:19 PM	#6
DavidJayUden Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,047 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,414 Times in 887 Posts	Lynn, What is stamped in front of the serial number is "9x21", showing that the chamber has been punched out to make it Italian Friendly. It makes it a bit less desirable elsewhere but unfortunately necessary for private ownership in Italy. Not sure if it is still "legitimate". dju

11-27-2014, 02:44 AM	#9
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	PSF in Italy is "smokeless pownder"

11-27-2014, 02:45 AM	#10
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	What does it mean "p" under the barrel? Thanks

11-27-2014, 09:31 AM	#12
tharpo Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: West Coast, USA Posts: 543 Thanks: 118 Thanked 383 Times in 158 Posts	The suffix on the gun is a "p" but the suffix on the magazine appears to be an "o". Would need a better picture of the magazine to verify.

11-27-2014, 11:16 AM	#13
cda_berbaro User Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 33 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	you're right, it's seems a "o". So the magazine is by another gun?