ARs

jagervw · 05-29-2014, 08:45 AM

Anyone here also enjoy this fine firearm?

sheepherder · 05-29-2014, 09:06 AM

I don't enjoy them, but I have (or had) half a dozen of them. Mostly retros, but one DPMS flattop HBAR carbine with a scope & flip-up irons. An XM607, a DOE 633. Fantasy stuff mostly. Copies of Reed's collection. If it looked cool, I cloned it.

mrerick · 05-29-2014, 09:51 AM

I have some also, and mainly use them for teaching rifle classes.

A couple of years ago, I picked up one of the M4 profile Dark Earth Magpul furniture equipped rifles made right here in North Carolina by Del-Ton. It's a really nice AR-15.

Wilhelm · 05-29-2014, 10:14 AM

They never did it for me. Reliability has always been important to me so I'm more of a Combloc kinda' guy.

alanint · 05-29-2014, 12:42 PM

I regularly build my own for shooting or for friends. I have a number of configurations, from a Factory 639 to virtually any combination of uppers to swap out imaginable

Curss · 05-29-2014, 03:08 PM

I have a Stag Arms left handed upper mated to a Spike Tactical receiver. Need to take it out and sight it in (I'm more of a handgun fanatic then with rifles.)

rhuff · 05-29-2014, 03:52 PM

I purchased my first(Rock River Arms) AR15 between "scares" of the political kind. It seems to be a well built piece, but I am a handgun guy, and my indoor range will not let me shoot it there. My closest rifle range is 60 miles round trip.

Edward Tinker · 05-29-2014, 04:05 PM

I have had two or three, i finally started thinning those guns out that were not the rounds I wanted to keep around. So the last AR went away. I am very used to the standard model, having used an M16A2 etel for 20 years in the army.

I do regret having sold my AR10 that I'd bought from my brother...

alanint · 05-29-2014, 05:55 PM

Still, no matter what you think of these guns, it pays to invest in a shoe box full of stripped lower receivers, which are going for as low as $69 in some places, to have for a rainy day.

The balance of the parts will most likely be the last thing big government will try to regulate and should be obtainable when the next new scare comes on. I sold several ARs made from my shoebox stash last summer for ridiculous prices to people who had not prepared.

LugerVern · 05-31-2014, 01:24 PM

I built one in 6.8 SPC and hunted with it very successfully for 3 years, just parted with it. Going back to the oldie but goodies, you know the 30-30's, 45-120's and things like that. I guess for some they are goodies

That was one hell of a tree stand gun!

Vern

K.Wilhelm · 06-05-2014, 07:04 PM

I really like them and currently have a Daniel Defense 16" M4 upper on a Stag lower with an Eotech scope. Would have more if the Luger bug hadn't bitten about 1 1/2 years ago. Bill

318is_Parabellum · 06-11-2014, 10:44 PM

I built an "A1" clone with a mil-surp Vietnam-era M16 upper (bought at Knob Creek) for my VN vet Dad a few years back. I liked it so much, I procured another Colt VN-era upper and built one myself on a Colt Lightweight Sporter Lower -- it really looks the part, especially with the canvas sling.

My last trip to Knob Creek a couple of years ago netted me a genuine GI surplus M16A2 upper made by FN. I built that one up on a Stag lower. Both rifles shoot great, but the A2 clone's FN upper looked new when I bought it. It had been 'demil-ed' by removing the forward assist. 5 minutes and $12 took care of that.

I really like my A2 build, because that is the rifle I was issued while I was in the Army, but I far and away prefer my A1 build...so light, handy, and plenty accurate considering the upper very likely saw lots of use!

I have to add that I bought all three GI surplus uppers for $180 each! I've less than $500 in each of three builds I've done so far. Next will be a VN-era XM-177 clone, and then a flat-top M4 type. ARs are addictive too! I do prefer the 20" rifles, though. The 5.56 round performs much better out of a 20in barrel...

Ron Smith · 06-17-2014, 12:41 PM

I've had mine for several years. I bought it from a County Deputy who built it for inter-agency matches, using all top of the line parts on an LMT lower.

He won several matches with it. It is the most accurate AR I have ever fired. There have been several over the years, but this one is hands down the best by far...

Olle · 06-18-2014, 11:05 AM

I have built two and bought one Bushmaster already built. One of the builds is a target gun that (so far) shoots 1/2 MOA consistently at 100 yards, and 1/4 MOA on a good day. I was thinking about hand loading to get better results, but I have so many other projects going on that I simply don't have time.

They are kind of fun to build, it's almost like playing with Lego. I haven't done any work on them in a while, the only thing I have done lately was to put a Slide Fire stock on the Bushmaster. It's one of those things you "just have to have", but after trying it a couple of times you'll think: "Ok, now what?" It was fun for a while, but it's probably coming off pretty soon.

Big Shrek · 07-26-2014, 01:10 PM

Was issued A1's & A2's in the Army...never really liked the feel and often talked whoever was humping the 60 out of it after the first march...
back then I was built like Lou Ferrigno so the M60 felt like a proper rifle, the M16 felt like a nerf gun...
as a rifle the M16's work just fine...if you can shoot worth a dang the E on the ribbon is achievable

When I was stuck with them, they never coughed...as I kept mine clean & the dust cover CLOSED.
Kind of important in sandy areas...lots of city kids discovered the hard way what happens when you don't close the cover after firing...
simply can't run around with the dust cover open...crud gets in there QUICK!!
Mag disciplne also must be maintained...can't be dropping 'em in the dirt all over the place...
heh, starting to become a reminder of the 80's/90's...LOL
Anyway, keep clean, lightly lubed, its a sewing machine.

Nowadays, I don't own any, the one I do have in the building process is for the Wifey...a Pink AR15...hey, gotta keep the Mrs. happy!!
As she's a redheaded retired GySgt, USMC...(yes, evidently I'm a glutton for punishment)
She no longer wants anything in Camo, unless its Pink Camo...she hit the Barbie button since becoming a Mom

Bad part, its making me want one again...nostalgia I guess...
Tennessee Arms Company is the lower of choice...so I can have my Green one

MikeP · 07-28-2014, 01:45 AM

Drug a CAR around live fire for 16 months.
No real complaints. It was better than the M2 Carbine I 1st had.

I fool with all kinds of stuff today, but for some reason I have an aversion to ARs.
Friend asked me to check his out and I did not even want to touch it.

alanint · 07-28-2014, 07:29 AM

Although all troops in-country called them "CARs", yours was an XM177E2.

MikeP · 07-28-2014, 01:28 PM

We knew exactly what they were=it was stamped on the side.

Much more expedient in use to say My "CAR" than my "XM177E2."

Some of that nomenclature stuff tended to be tedious.

Cheesy411 · 07-28-2014, 06:37 PM

I am too a com bloc fan but I do own a nice mixmaster ar 15 built from parts I've accumulated. I am a very big fan of the israeli version of the there carbine. Look tough built tough with a unique retro style a classic example of taking what you have and developing it into a good weapon system.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/602...ad.html&page=2

A good thread on pics of IDF AR platforms

05-29-2014, 08:45 AM	#1
jagervw User Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: S. Florida Posts: 47 Thanks: 52 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts	ARs Anyone here also enjoy this fine firearm? Attached Thumbnails

05-29-2014, 09:06 AM	#2
sheepherder Lifer Lifetime Forum Patron Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: ...on the 'ol Erie Canal... Posts: 8,197 Thanks: 1,416 Thanked 4,462 Times in 2,336 Posts	I don't enjoy them, but I have (or had) half a dozen of them. Mostly retros, but one DPMS flattop HBAR carbine with a scope & flip-up irons. An XM607, a DOE 633. Fantasy stuff mostly. Copies of Reed's collection. If it looked cool, I cloned it. Attached Thumbnails __________________ I like my coffee the way I like my women... ...Cold and bitter... Last edited by sheepherder; 05-29-2014 at 01:17 PM. Reason: hit the wrong key...pesky keyboard...

05-29-2014, 09:51 AM	#3
mrerick Super Moderator - Patron LugerForum Life Patron Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Eastern North Carolina, USA Posts: 3,920 Thanks: 1,377 Thanked 3,135 Times in 1,518 Posts	I have some also, and mainly use them for teaching rifle classes. A couple of years ago, I picked up one of the M4 profile Dark Earth Magpul furniture equipped rifles made right here in North Carolina by Del-Ton. It's a really nice AR-15. __________________ Igitur si vis pacem, para bellum - - Therefore if you want peace, prepare for war.

05-29-2014, 10:14 AM	#4
Wilhelm User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 365 Thanks: 48 Thanked 136 Times in 60 Posts	They never did it for me. Reliability has always been important to me so I'm more of a Combloc kinda' guy. __________________ translatedfrenchmanuals@yahoo.com I promise to be nice and play well with others

05-29-2014, 03:08 PM	#6
Curss User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 307 Thanks: 304 Thanked 98 Times in 75 Posts	I have a Stag Arms left handed upper mated to a Spike Tactical receiver. Need to take it out and sight it in (I'm more of a handgun fanatic then with rifles.) __________________ -Chris

05-29-2014, 12:42 PM	#5
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	I regularly build my own for shooting or for friends. I have a number of configurations, from a Factory 639 to virtually any combination of uppers to swap out imaginable

05-29-2014, 03:52 PM	#7
rhuff Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Az. Posts: 2,308 Thanks: 2,737 Thanked 993 Times in 729 Posts	I purchased my first(Rock River Arms) AR15 between "scares" of the political kind. It seems to be a well built piece, but I am a handgun guy, and my indoor range will not let me shoot it there. My closest rifle range is 60 miles round trip.

05-29-2014, 04:05 PM	#8
Edward Tinker Super Moderator Eternal Lifer LugerForum Patron Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: North of Spokane, WA Posts: 15,967 Thanks: 2,066 Thanked 4,596 Times in 2,117 Posts	I have had two or three, i finally started thinning those guns out that were not the rounds I wanted to keep around. So the last AR went away. I am very used to the standard model, having used an M16A2 etel for 20 years in the army. I do regret having sold my AR10 that I'd bought from my brother... __________________ Edward Tinker ************ Co-Author of Police Lugers - Co-Author of Simson Lugers Author of Veteran Bring Backs Vol I, Vol II, Vol III and Vol IV

05-29-2014, 05:55 PM	#9
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Still, no matter what you think of these guns, it pays to invest in a shoe box full of stripped lower receivers, which are going for as low as $69 in some places, to have for a rainy day. The balance of the parts will most likely be the last thing big government will try to regulate and should be obtainable when the next new scare comes on. I sold several ARs made from my shoebox stash last summer for ridiculous prices to people who had not prepared.

05-31-2014, 01:24 PM	#10
LugerVern User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 563 Thanks: 1 Thanked 34 Times in 27 Posts	I built one in 6.8 SPC and hunted with it very successfully for 3 years, just parted with it. Going back to the oldie but goodies, you know the 30-30's, 45-120's and things like that. I guess for some they are goodies That was one hell of a tree stand gun! Vern

06-05-2014, 07:04 PM	#11
K.Wilhelm User Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: South Central Colorado Posts: 215 Thanks: 45 Thanked 109 Times in 66 Posts	ARs I really like them and currently have a Daniel Defense 16" M4 upper on a Stag lower with an Eotech scope. Would have more if the Luger bug hadn't bitten about 1 1/2 years ago. Bill __________________ NRA Endowment Life member Proud veteran of the Naval Security Group

06-11-2014, 10:44 PM	#12
318is_Parabellum User Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: West Virginia Posts: 130 Thanks: 80 Thanked 75 Times in 31 Posts	I built an "A1" clone with a mil-surp Vietnam-era M16 upper (bought at Knob Creek) for my VN vet Dad a few years back. I liked it so much, I procured another Colt VN-era upper and built one myself on a Colt Lightweight Sporter Lower -- it really looks the part, especially with the canvas sling. My last trip to Knob Creek a couple of years ago netted me a genuine GI surplus M16A2 upper made by FN. I built that one up on a Stag lower. Both rifles shoot great, but the A2 clone's FN upper looked new when I bought it. It had been 'demil-ed' by removing the forward assist. 5 minutes and $12 took care of that. I really like my A2 build, because that is the rifle I was issued while I was in the Army, but I far and away prefer my A1 build...so light, handy, and plenty accurate considering the upper very likely saw lots of use! I have to add that I bought all three GI surplus uppers for $180 each! I've less than $500 in each of three builds I've done so far. Next will be a VN-era XM-177 clone, and then a flat-top M4 type. ARs are addictive too! I do prefer the 20" rifles, though. The 5.56 round performs much better out of a 20in barrel... Last edited by 318is_Parabellum; 06-12-2014 at 10:47 PM.

06-17-2014, 12:41 PM	#13
Ron Smith User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Orygun Posts: 4,243 Thanks: 118 Thanked 245 Times in 150 Posts	I've had mine for several years. I bought it from a County Deputy who built it for inter-agency matches, using all top of the line parts on an LMT lower. He won several matches with it. It is the most accurate AR I have ever fired. There have been several over the years, but this one is hands down the best by far... Attached Thumbnails __________________ I Still Need DWM side plate #49... if anyone runs across a nice one. What ~Rudyard Kipling~ said...

06-18-2014, 11:05 AM	#14
Olle User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,149 Thanks: 159 Thanked 664 Times in 318 Posts	I have built two and bought one Bushmaster already built. One of the builds is a target gun that (so far) shoots 1/2 MOA consistently at 100 yards, and 1/4 MOA on a good day. I was thinking about hand loading to get better results, but I have so many other projects going on that I simply don't have time. They are kind of fun to build, it's almost like playing with Lego. I haven't done any work on them in a while, the only thing I have done lately was to put a Slide Fire stock on the Bushmaster. It's one of those things you "just have to have", but after trying it a couple of times you'll think: "Ok, now what?" It was fun for a while, but it's probably coming off pretty soon.

07-26-2014, 01:10 PM	#15
Big Shrek User Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 15 Thanks: 49 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Was issued A1's & A2's in the Army...never really liked the feel and often talked whoever was humping the 60 out of it after the first march... back then I was built like Lou Ferrigno so the M60 felt like a proper rifle, the M16 felt like a nerf gun... as a rifle the M16's work just fine...if you can shoot worth a dang the E on the ribbon is achievable When I was stuck with them, they never coughed...as I kept mine clean & the dust cover CLOSED. Kind of important in sandy areas...lots of city kids discovered the hard way what happens when you don't close the cover after firing... simply can't run around with the dust cover open...crud gets in there QUICK!! Mag disciplne also must be maintained...can't be dropping 'em in the dirt all over the place... heh, starting to become a reminder of the 80's/90's...LOL Anyway, keep clean, lightly lubed, its a sewing machine. Nowadays, I don't own any, the one I do have in the building process is for the Wifey...a Pink AR15...hey, gotta keep the Mrs. happy!! As she's a redheaded retired GySgt, USMC...(yes, evidently I'm a glutton for punishment) She no longer wants anything in Camo, unless its Pink Camo...she hit the Barbie button since becoming a Mom Bad part, its making me want one again...nostalgia I guess... Tennessee Arms Company is the lower of choice...so I can have my Green one __________________ A gun should be a tool in the hands of a deadly weapon, not a deadly weapon in the hands of a tool.

07-28-2014, 01:45 AM	#16
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	Drug a CAR around live fire for 16 months. No real complaints. It was better than the M2 Carbine I 1st had. I fool with all kinds of stuff today, but for some reason I have an aversion to ARs. Friend asked me to check his out and I did not even want to touch it. Attached Thumbnails

07-28-2014, 07:29 AM	#17
alanint User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Marco Island, Florida Posts: 4,867 Thanks: 1,685 Thanked 1,917 Times in 1,193 Posts	Although all troops in-country called them "CARs", yours was an XM177E2.

07-28-2014, 01:28 PM	#18
MikeP User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ILL Posts: 686 Thanks: 36 Thanked 452 Times in 198 Posts	We knew exactly what they were=it was stamped on the side. Much more expedient in use to say My "CAR" than my "XM177E2." Some of that nomenclature stuff tended to be tedious.

07-28-2014, 06:37 PM	#19
Cheesy411 User Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 79 Thanks: 28 Thanked 27 Times in 12 Posts	I am too a com bloc fan but I do own a nice mixmaster ar 15 built from parts I've accumulated. I am a very big fan of the israeli version of the there carbine. Look tough built tough with a unique retro style a classic example of taking what you have and developing it into a good weapon system. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/602...ad.html&page=2 A good thread on pics of IDF AR platforms