Information needed

shinytop · 07-09-2012, 06:39 PM

Hello
I am new to the site and if I am posting in the incorrect place I applogize in advance. I was given a luger from what I can tell it is a DWM made serial# 9991 it also has the M stamp whic I believe is for military. I cant find any date on it as to when it was made. I have the clip whic has a wood bottom no stamp but the other parts have 91 stamped on them any info on this gun would be a big help thanks

Ice · 07-09-2012, 06:51 PM

Welcome to the forum! Photos would help us provide information about your Luger.

Charlie

shinytop · 07-09-2012, 07:16 PM

Sorry I should of thought of the pics

policeluger · 07-09-2012, 07:33 PM

"m" is the serial number suffix.....

lugersrkewl · 07-09-2012, 07:36 PM

looks like an alphabet commercial wich were the most produced luger there was I believe.
with the suffix m on the serial (they started with 4 digits 0000-9999 then once they past four digits they restarted the numbers and added a letter differentiating ranges of numbers instead of just starting at 0 and going to 100000000000 for instance)its probably between 1922-25 for the year of production. there is a sticky in the commercial section wich could help you date it further. military guns have the year or a code for the year they were built stamped on them as well as obvious and plentiful serial numbers on almost every part.

( it has a nitro proof wich is a tipoff its commercial ) crown n

if all parts internal and external match and its original finish worth maybe up to 800 the condition its in on a good day ( maybe).
any nonmatched parts or refinishing 4-500$

the caliber should be .30 luger
unless I am way out in left field but I found this one in the database with a fairly close serial: 9227 m alphabet c/N upright MADE IN GERMANY .30

shinytop · 07-10-2012, 08:13 AM

thank you both for the info as I said I am new to this and before I start to fool with the gun I wanted to make sure it was a shooter type gun and not something I would of ruined

lugersrkewl · 07-10-2012, 09:43 AM

welcome to the forum
I dont know if its a shooter it would have to be examined and disassembled to see if parts match. I cant tell from the pics if its refinished or not.
one of the guys who knows alot about lugers might be able to tell you that.

shinytop · 07-10-2012, 11:09 AM

Okay I will wait to see if I can get more information on the gun. One of the things I have noticed is some parts are stamped with only 2 of the serial numbers (last two) and the toggle will not stay open it wont lock I believe it to be a 30 cal gun amazing craftmanship I would love to learn more about it.
Thanks

FNorm · 07-10-2012, 01:00 PM

Your commercial luger was made in the first half of 1924. To stay open it needs the magazine to be in. The mag button is what activates the hold open. If it still doesn't stay open you are missing the hold open device.

See this list, or here for disassembly: http://www.wonderhowto.com/search/luger/

shinytop · 07-10-2012, 03:41 PM

Thanks so much Fnorm I will try that out tonight after work.Do you think that the gun was reblued? I think it is a shooter gun is this correct?

lugersrkewl · 07-10-2012, 05:32 PM

im guessing its not original finish but that is a guess.
here is a link to a site that sells ebooks about lugers for 7.95 u could buy a dwm one and it would go into great detail about your gun.
dwm has been around a long time and their is a lot of history on them . I read somewhere dwm (or was it mauser?) was absorbed by anheiser busch.

pitsword · 07-10-2012, 06:08 PM

Nice pistol and a great piece of history. BTW, did you ever go by the handle "chrome dome"?

shinytop · 07-10-2012, 07:17 PM

Hi Pitswoed No never chome dome just shinytop LOL

shinytop · 07-11-2012, 06:10 AM

Hi Legugerskewl I dont see the link for the book thanks

Lugerdoc · 07-11-2012, 10:41 AM

LK, Although it is true that the DWM PO8 machinery went to Mauser in 1930, the only "absortion" by/of AB may have been workers absorbing their beer. TH

ithacaartist · 07-11-2012, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinytop

Hi Legugerskewl I dont see the link for the book thanks

Not lugerskewl here, but here is the link: http://www.hlebooks.com/

I highly recommend these e-books for a thorough basic understanding of their topics. Start with Luger Mechanical Features and see if it isn't some of the best 7.95 dollars you've ever spent.

shinytop · 07-12-2012, 08:55 AM

thank you ithacaartist looks like a starting point for me.

John Sabato · 07-12-2012, 09:34 AM

Gerard Henrotin's e-books are a real bargain with great illustrations. I strongly recommend them for beginning and advanced collectors alike.

His animated Luger graphic has generously graced the homepage of Lugerforum.com for years now... Luger Animation Click Here

07-09-2012, 06:39 PM	#1
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Information needed Hello I am new to the site and if I am posting in the incorrect place I applogize in advance. I was given a luger from what I can tell it is a DWM made serial# 9991 it also has the M stamp whic I believe is for military. I cant find any date on it as to when it was made. I have the clip whic has a wood bottom no stamp but the other parts have 91 stamped on them any info on this gun would be a big help thanks

07-09-2012, 07:16 PM	#3
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Sorry I should of thought of the pics Attached Thumbnails

07-11-2012, 10:41 AM	#15
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07-12-2012, 09:34 AM	#18
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07-09-2012, 06:51 PM	#2
Ice User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Posts: 552 Thanks: 13 Thanked 69 Times in 57 Posts	Welcome to the forum! Photos would help us provide information about your Luger. Charlie

07-09-2012, 07:33 PM	#4
policeluger RIP Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ca. Posts: 2,141 Thanks: 8 Thanked 89 Times in 54 Posts	"m" is the serial number suffix.....

07-09-2012, 07:36 PM	#5
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	looks like an alphabet commercial wich were the most produced luger there was I believe. with the suffix m on the serial (they started with 4 digits 0000-9999 then once they past four digits they restarted the numbers and added a letter differentiating ranges of numbers instead of just starting at 0 and going to 100000000000 for instance)its probably between 1922-25 for the year of production. there is a sticky in the commercial section wich could help you date it further. military guns have the year or a code for the year they were built stamped on them as well as obvious and plentiful serial numbers on almost every part. ( it has a nitro proof wich is a tipoff its commercial ) crown n if all parts internal and external match and its original finish worth maybe up to 800 the condition its in on a good day ( maybe). any nonmatched parts or refinishing 4-500$ the caliber should be .30 luger unless I am way out in left field but I found this one in the database with a fairly close serial: 9227 m alphabet c/N upright MADE IN GERMANY .30

07-10-2012, 08:13 AM	#6
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thank you both for the info as I said I am new to this and before I start to fool with the gun I wanted to make sure it was a shooter type gun and not something I would of ruined

07-10-2012, 09:43 AM	#7
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	welcome to the forum I dont know if its a shooter it would have to be examined and disassembled to see if parts match. I cant tell from the pics if its refinished or not. one of the guys who knows alot about lugers might be able to tell you that.

07-10-2012, 11:09 AM	#8
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Okay I will wait to see if I can get more information on the gun. One of the things I have noticed is some parts are stamped with only 2 of the serial numbers (last two) and the toggle will not stay open it wont lock I believe it to be a 30 cal gun amazing craftmanship I would love to learn more about it. Thanks

07-10-2012, 01:00 PM	#9
FNorm Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Colorado Posts: 978 Thanks: 68 Thanked 127 Times in 108 Posts	Your commercial luger was made in the first half of 1924. To stay open it needs the magazine to be in. The mag button is what activates the hold open. If it still doesn't stay open you are missing the hold open device. See this list, or here for disassembly: http://www.wonderhowto.com/search/luger/

07-10-2012, 03:41 PM	#10
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Thanks so much Fnorm I will try that out tonight after work.Do you think that the gun was reblued? I think it is a shooter gun is this correct?

07-10-2012, 05:32 PM	#11
lugersrkewl Patron LugerForum Patron Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Ussr Posts: 425 Thanks: 198 Thanked 75 Times in 58 Posts	im guessing its not original finish but that is a guess. here is a link to a site that sells ebooks about lugers for 7.95 u could buy a dwm one and it would go into great detail about your gun. dwm has been around a long time and their is a lot of history on them . I read somewhere dwm (or was it mauser?) was absorbed by anheiser busch.

07-10-2012, 06:08 PM	#12
pitsword User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Southern Maine Posts: 459 Thanks: 3,964 Thanked 103 Times in 83 Posts	Nice pistol and a great piece of history. BTW, did you ever go by the handle "chrome dome"?

07-10-2012, 07:17 PM	#13
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi Pitswoed No never chome dome just shinytop LOL

07-11-2012, 06:10 AM	#14
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Hi Legugerskewl I dont see the link for the book thanks

07-12-2012, 08:55 AM	#17
shinytop User Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	thank you ithacaartist looks like a starting point for me.